1 00:00:01,679 --> 00:00:06,219 I'm going to talk about, uh, why if you don't have 2 00:00:07,399 --> 00:00:11,940 destroying the top AI companies in the world as your number one, number two 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,759 priority, then I kind of don't want you as a close friend in my life. 4 00:00:15,899 --> 00:00:16,199 And 5 00:00:16,899 --> 00:00:18,100 this is a policy I'm 6 00:00:18,939 --> 00:00:21,920 planning to follow, at least for the next few months. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,999 It's something I'm implicitly following anyway, 8 00:00:24,659 --> 00:00:27,699 but I wanted to be more explicit about, you know, what the hell is going on. 9 00:00:28,979 --> 00:00:31,399 Yeah, that's what I'm going to be talking about. 10 00:00:32,579 --> 00:00:34,799 Now let's get into the video. Uh, 11 00:00:35,599 --> 00:00:39,919 I have not done a lot of preparation for this video. That is on purpose. 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,059 The downside is... Yeah, I mean, obviously... 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,319 Well, there are multiple downsides, but the first downside is obviously I won't be 14 00:00:49,319 --> 00:00:53,840 presenting things as accurately, as concisely, as persuasively 15 00:00:54,599 --> 00:00:58,039 as I would if I had prepared the video a lot in advance. 16 00:00:59,259 --> 00:01:03,199 One major upside is, you know, I might come across as more authentic, 17 00:01:04,139 --> 00:01:06,039 uh, more honest, 18 00:01:08,139 --> 00:01:11,279 and that could, in its own way, also be more persuasive. 19 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:16,199 Uh, I think there are pros and cons to, like, planned videos versus unplanned 20 00:01:16,239 --> 00:01:17,119 videos. 21 00:01:17,999 --> 00:01:18,479 Uh, 22 00:01:19,239 --> 00:01:23,879 in this... What we're doing right now, uh, I'm going to be experimenting with, you know, 23 00:01:24,219 --> 00:01:26,539 a video without a lot of planning and preparation. 24 00:01:27,839 --> 00:01:31,799 So that's the first disclaimer I kind of wanted to give. You know, this is a quick note. 25 00:01:31,799 --> 00:01:33,759 This is not a really well thought out kind of thing. 26 00:01:33,779 --> 00:01:38,339 If you want really well thought out kind of things, go to my website and read stuff 27 00:01:38,399 --> 00:01:38,859 there. 28 00:01:39,519 --> 00:01:42,739 Uh, on text, you can edit your mistakes a lot more. 29 00:01:42,739 --> 00:01:45,539 You can update documents over, you know, like months, years. 30 00:01:45,539 --> 00:01:49,439 So, like, five years of work can be compressed into one document, where- 31 00:01:50,199 --> 00:01:53,079 whereas with video, you know, editing your previous work is kind of difficult. 32 00:01:53,079 --> 00:01:54,699 You have to make new videos. So, yeah. 33 00:01:56,099 --> 00:01:58,999 And even there, I mean, I often write quick notes. 34 00:01:59,059 --> 00:01:59,899 Like, quick note 35 00:02:01,059 --> 00:02:03,079 to you just sounds like note that is quick. 36 00:02:03,479 --> 00:02:08,119 Uh, for me it's this jargon with a wh- very specific meaning, which I use in my 37 00:02:08,139 --> 00:02:10,159 internal notes, which I don't share publicly. 38 00:02:10,939 --> 00:02:11,399 Uh, 39 00:02:12,119 --> 00:02:12,619 so, 40 00:02:14,679 --> 00:02:15,019 yeah, 41 00:02:15,959 --> 00:02:20,019 if you want stuff that is really thought through, go read my website and read the 42 00:02:20,019 --> 00:02:22,339 documents that don't have quick note marked on them. 43 00:02:23,039 --> 00:02:25,959 If they have quick note marked on them or if it's, you know, this video... 44 00:02:25,959 --> 00:02:28,139 This video is also a quick note, basically. 45 00:02:28,779 --> 00:02:29,139 Uh, 46 00:02:29,959 --> 00:02:33,959 that means don't take it as seriously. There could be inaccuracies. 47 00:02:33,959 --> 00:02:37,759 There could be thungs- there could be things I later come to regret saying, 48 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:40,939 and yeah, that's just it. Yeah. 49 00:02:41,759 --> 00:02:45,839 Oh, yeah, another kind of disclaimer I need to give before actually getting into the 50 00:02:45,859 --> 00:02:47,679 video. This is, uh, 51 00:02:48,659 --> 00:02:51,479 fundamental problem with, you know, talking on the internet. 52 00:02:51,479 --> 00:02:52,139 It's just 53 00:02:54,199 --> 00:02:58,599 when you're talking to people in person, usually there's an implicit context. 54 00:02:58,599 --> 00:03:02,739 There's a shared set of assumptions you have around how you relate to the world, and 55 00:03:03,419 --> 00:03:06,719 this could be with your friends. It could be with your family. 56 00:03:06,799 --> 00:03:11,059 It could be any meetup you have joined, where the meetup has a specific s- purpose. 57 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,299 It could be, you know, a religious group that you have joined, and you're going to, 58 00:03:16,839 --> 00:03:20,619 uh... There's a lot of shared assumptions, whereas with the internet what happens, it's 59 00:03:20,679 --> 00:03:21,059 like, 60 00:03:22,579 --> 00:03:26,839 unless you put a lot of effort otherwise, by default, you know, e- content can be seen by 61 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,419 anyone. So, like, the gen- internet becomes, like, this giant switchboard of all 62 00:03:31,459 --> 00:03:32,659 cultures ever, 63 00:03:33,439 --> 00:03:34,059 and 64 00:03:35,239 --> 00:03:36,039 it's difficult 65 00:03:37,439 --> 00:03:41,579 to communicate well when you don't have those shared assumptions and, you know, people of 66 00:03:41,599 --> 00:03:44,599 every possible set of assumptions could end up watching your video. 67 00:03:45,299 --> 00:03:48,039 Like, that is a thing the internet does. 68 00:03:48,659 --> 00:03:52,699 I mean, it's not just that... Yeah. And it's not just that when I go and speak on the 69 00:03:52,739 --> 00:03:56,499 internet, you know, I will change myself, because I know all sorts of people are 70 00:03:56,519 --> 00:03:59,879 listening. The changes go backwards too. 71 00:03:59,939 --> 00:04:00,219 Like, 72 00:04:01,179 --> 00:04:06,139 uh, when you change yourself for a particular context, you also change yourself, 73 00:04:06,139 --> 00:04:10,119 period, and then that goes back even into the contexts 74 00:04:11,039 --> 00:04:14,499 where you don't need to change yourself. So now tomorrow... Even... 75 00:04:14,779 --> 00:04:16,499 So let's say someone is a public speaker. 76 00:04:16,499 --> 00:04:19,239 They're used to speaking on the internet for many years together, either have a YouTube 77 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,759 podcast or whatever. Now, even when they go talk to their friends, they're probably 78 00:04:22,779 --> 00:04:26,319 implicitly already following some of the norms they've learned from, you know, spending 79 00:04:26,819 --> 00:04:28,319 their life on YouTube. Like... 80 00:04:29,359 --> 00:04:34,219 And that will then go and affect how their friends think and perceive the world and 81 00:04:34,259 --> 00:04:36,099 maybe how their friends' friends perceive the world. 82 00:04:36,099 --> 00:04:38,919 Like, the internet does this kind of, like, massive c- 83 00:04:39,659 --> 00:04:39,879 like, 84 00:04:41,819 --> 00:04:45,579 decimation of cultures, should I put it that way? Like, the internet destroys cultures. 85 00:04:45,599 --> 00:04:48,739 Like, the internet has destroyed more of human culture than I think 86 00:04:49,959 --> 00:04:52,239 quite possibly anything else in human history. 87 00:04:52,779 --> 00:04:57,639 Uh, like, you know, Genghis Khan, I think at the time murdered like 10% of world 88 00:04:57,699 --> 00:05:00,119 population, and it's possible the internet has. 89 00:05:01,079 --> 00:05:04,239 I'm not sure, but I think it's possible the internet has destroyed more of human culture 90 00:05:04,259 --> 00:05:05,979 than Genghis Khan did, so... 91 00:05:07,559 --> 00:05:11,679 Yeah. Uh, yeah, that was the other disclaimer I wanted to give which is... 92 00:05:12,439 --> 00:05:17,419 Yeah. Sorry, I think I talked a lot in detail, but the summary of this is, you know, 93 00:05:17,859 --> 00:05:22,099 on the internet you end up forcing yourself to become the sort of person who can 94 00:05:22,119 --> 00:05:27,039 interface with a wide variety of cultures, and maybe I will do a little bit less of 95 00:05:27,139 --> 00:05:28,499 that in this video, 96 00:05:29,319 --> 00:05:32,099 because, again, that is not an authentic me. 97 00:05:32,139 --> 00:05:36,779 That's like a fake version of myself I need to project in order to talk to people who are 98 00:05:36,799 --> 00:05:41,119 very different from me. And I think all YouTubers become a little fake and all 99 00:05:41,159 --> 00:05:44,759 politicians become a little fake. I think lots of people become a little fake 100 00:05:45,479 --> 00:05:46,339 in the process 101 00:05:47,159 --> 00:05:47,919 of doing this. 102 00:05:48,859 --> 00:05:51,739 And yeah, I want to do a little bit less of that in this video. Yeah. 103 00:05:51,899 --> 00:05:53,959 That's my other disclaimer. 104 00:05:54,739 --> 00:05:58,239 Uh, the downside is, yeah, I mean, I will piss people off. 105 00:05:58,679 --> 00:06:02,399 Uh, people will straight up just not understand me. People who don't have my assumptions. 106 00:06:02,419 --> 00:06:04,039 That is always a thing that can happen. 107 00:06:04,199 --> 00:06:08,943 Yeah.Now coming to the actual topic I wanted to talk 108 00:06:08,984 --> 00:06:11,463 about, yeah, AI, AI companies. Yeah. 109 00:06:12,323 --> 00:06:12,983 Uh, 110 00:06:14,723 --> 00:06:18,723 maybe instead of talking about AI companies, I'll talk about, you know, why I am making 111 00:06:18,744 --> 00:06:21,643 this video. So the reason I'm making this video is 112 00:06:22,643 --> 00:06:25,064 mainly that I feel incredibly, terribly lonely. 113 00:06:25,343 --> 00:06:28,724 And I know that's not a very professional thing to admit, uh, that makes... 114 00:06:28,884 --> 00:06:31,943 when I say, "Okay, I am lonely and that's why I'm making this video," that automatically 115 00:06:31,964 --> 00:06:32,823 makes this, like... 116 00:06:33,443 --> 00:06:36,943 Video has now been put into more, like, personal kind of context, not a professional 117 00:06:36,983 --> 00:06:37,563 context. 118 00:06:38,984 --> 00:06:39,764 And, 119 00:06:42,583 --> 00:06:47,384 yeah, I think that's true, but I also separately have a set of opinions on how internet 120 00:06:47,403 --> 00:06:48,603 is going to, like, 121 00:06:49,423 --> 00:06:53,224 force intermixing between personal and professional contexts for most people anyway. 122 00:06:53,403 --> 00:06:53,684 Like, 123 00:06:55,063 --> 00:06:59,023 the people at your workplace can find out about your personal life easily if they wanted 124 00:06:59,043 --> 00:07:01,543 to, in general, exceptions exist, and vice versa. 125 00:07:01,563 --> 00:07:02,323 The people at your, 126 00:07:03,343 --> 00:07:06,583 in your personal life can find out what you do at work and how you behave at work and 127 00:07:06,583 --> 00:07:07,603 what you think and say at work 128 00:07:08,503 --> 00:07:11,823 if they want to. I think the internet just does that kind of by default. 129 00:07:11,823 --> 00:07:14,243 You know, you're a public person at all times by default. 130 00:07:15,443 --> 00:07:16,023 Uh, 131 00:07:17,203 --> 00:07:19,063 like private spheres of life are shrinking. 132 00:07:19,203 --> 00:07:20,163 So yeah, I think, 133 00:07:22,163 --> 00:07:24,843 yeah, people maybe 20, 30 years from now will not 134 00:07:25,843 --> 00:07:30,543 find it as weird for someone to, in a professional context, say, you know, they were 135 00:07:30,543 --> 00:07:32,463 lonely, they were depressed, you know, 136 00:07:33,383 --> 00:07:33,943 their 137 00:07:35,023 --> 00:07:37,703 coworker shouted at them and they're upset about that. 138 00:07:37,723 --> 00:07:37,983 Like, 139 00:07:39,643 --> 00:07:41,843 I think some of that is going to happen. 140 00:07:44,943 --> 00:07:45,543 Yeah, I think 141 00:07:47,343 --> 00:07:52,183 there's definitely also, you know, class and privilege kind of things here, where the 142 00:07:52,223 --> 00:07:56,863 more negotiating power you have against your employer, the more you can be authentic at 143 00:07:56,923 --> 00:08:01,843 worse, at work and kind of expect your employer to just shut up and take it. 144 00:08:02,803 --> 00:08:06,883 Versus if they have negotiating power, they can get you to behave however they want you 145 00:08:06,983 --> 00:08:09,443 to for whatever their incentives are. 146 00:08:11,543 --> 00:08:12,083 So yeah, 147 00:08:13,363 --> 00:08:16,443 part of me being authentic to some extent, 148 00:08:17,163 --> 00:08:20,403 or even having the option to be authentic, whether I take that option or not, even having 149 00:08:20,423 --> 00:08:21,083 that option 150 00:08:22,863 --> 00:08:25,163 makes me more free in life. And that 151 00:08:25,903 --> 00:08:30,803 comes from me being part of free in a certain class and having a certain amount of wealth 152 00:08:30,803 --> 00:08:33,743 and being born into a family with a certain amount of wealth and so on. 153 00:08:34,883 --> 00:08:35,323 So 154 00:08:37,163 --> 00:08:38,803 yeah, I think I again went on a tangent. 155 00:08:38,803 --> 00:08:42,063 I think the point I was coming to say is the reason I'm making this video is because I'm 156 00:08:42,103 --> 00:08:43,483 lonely. Uh, 157 00:08:46,423 --> 00:08:49,483 and the specific way in which I'm lonely is, I think I have 158 00:08:50,283 --> 00:08:55,123 fundamental core differences in values and beliefs than almost everyone 159 00:08:55,163 --> 00:08:55,963 else on Earth. 160 00:08:56,643 --> 00:09:00,843 Like, I don't mean, like, 90% of people... I'm different from 90% of people. 161 00:09:00,863 --> 00:09:03,443 I don't mean I'm different from 99.9% of people. 162 00:09:03,443 --> 00:09:04,303 I'm saying, you know, uh, 163 00:09:05,183 --> 00:09:09,343 if you take a bunch of my core values and beliefs, add them up, I mean, I'm one of a 164 00:09:09,343 --> 00:09:13,663 handful of people on planet Earth who feel that way, and that makes me terribly lonely. 165 00:09:15,043 --> 00:09:19,963 And that is a harder problem to solve than if my problem was just, you know, uh, 166 00:09:20,623 --> 00:09:24,623 I don't relate to 90% of people. If it's 90% of people, I can just go and find the other 167 00:09:24,643 --> 00:09:27,603 10% of people and spend time with them, and that's, you know, problem solved. 168 00:09:27,603 --> 00:09:29,323 But I think that's not the case for me. 169 00:09:30,623 --> 00:09:31,123 Uh, 170 00:09:33,583 --> 00:09:38,423 I think one of my favorite articles ever on the internet, and, you know, this is 171 00:09:38,443 --> 00:09:41,323 coming from someone who has spent 10 years of their life on the internet. 172 00:09:41,323 --> 00:09:45,403 I have read, you know, literally hundreds of thousands... Have I? 173 00:09:47,703 --> 00:09:51,643 I may need to estimate that more accurately, but yeah, probably yes. 174 00:09:51,663 --> 00:09:54,943 I mean, hundreds of thousands of articles on the internet, so if I say, you know, this is 175 00:09:54,943 --> 00:09:58,503 my top five articles on the internet, I think, like, people should take that a bit 176 00:09:58,523 --> 00:10:01,003 seriously if they want to know anything about me as a person. 177 00:10:01,483 --> 00:10:06,343 Uh, one of my favorite articles on the internet is Lonely Descent by Eliezer 178 00:10:06,363 --> 00:10:09,723 Yudkowsky. Like, if I have to recommend even... 179 00:10:10,023 --> 00:10:14,403 Like, out of entire Yudkowsky's writings, if I have to recommend only one article, it's 180 00:10:14,403 --> 00:10:15,103 probably that one. 181 00:10:15,963 --> 00:10:17,723 Uh, it talks about 182 00:10:18,663 --> 00:10:21,323 how non-conformism is hard, and 183 00:10:22,863 --> 00:10:26,943 yeah, how non-conformism is a lot harder when you're the first person to be 184 00:10:26,983 --> 00:10:31,903 non-conformist compared to when you are joining a minority group that's non-conformist. 185 00:10:33,403 --> 00:10:38,363 Like, uh, let's take an example. I don't know, maybe being 186 00:10:38,423 --> 00:10:39,843 gay, like, okay. 187 00:10:41,043 --> 00:10:43,803 Actually, see, this is the context collapse thing I'm talking about. 188 00:10:43,803 --> 00:10:47,443 I'm sure somebody is going to get offended that I'm bringing gay people as an example. 189 00:10:47,823 --> 00:10:50,043 But you know what? I'm going to bring it up anyway. 190 00:10:50,683 --> 00:10:51,183 Uh, 191 00:10:53,263 --> 00:10:55,543 if there are a few gay people in your city, 192 00:10:56,403 --> 00:10:59,943 maybe they're not allowed, they're a minority group and, you know, they face certain 193 00:10:59,963 --> 00:11:02,763 downsides due to being open about the fact that they're gay. 194 00:11:03,083 --> 00:11:06,943 And so you also decide you are also going, like, you are also gay and you're going to be 195 00:11:06,943 --> 00:11:07,763 open about it. 196 00:11:08,963 --> 00:11:12,563 That is non-conformist and you will suffer as a result of that choice. 197 00:11:13,423 --> 00:11:17,683 But you are not alone in doing that and you are not alone in thinking that. 198 00:11:17,683 --> 00:11:18,023 Like, 199 00:11:19,803 --> 00:11:23,463 uh, you know there are other people on this planet who have had that thought before. 200 00:11:23,503 --> 00:11:26,743 That tells you this is a normal thought for a human being to have. 201 00:11:27,443 --> 00:11:27,843 Uh, 202 00:11:28,623 --> 00:11:31,623 I am still a normal human person. I can understand it. 203 00:11:31,623 --> 00:11:35,063 Okay, maybe society is getting something wrong here and I'm right here. 204 00:11:35,063 --> 00:11:39,683 That's easier to do when you're joining a minority group compared to, let's say, you 205 00:11:39,703 --> 00:11:39,923 know, 206 00:11:40,543 --> 00:11:43,703 there are no gay people in your entire country. There is no internet. 207 00:11:43,703 --> 00:11:45,903 You've never heard of the concept of gay before. 208 00:11:46,403 --> 00:11:48,823 And you tell, you know, "I am a gay person. 209 00:11:48,823 --> 00:11:50,183 I like to have sex with men." 210 00:11:52,563 --> 00:11:54,623 Uh, let's leave women for a... aside for now. 211 00:11:54,643 --> 00:11:57,103 I'm just writing about a gay, a man who's gay. 212 00:11:57,163 --> 00:11:59,763 And I think that latter thing of, you know, 213 00:12:00,503 --> 00:12:03,963 there is no one else who is doing this thing and you are the first person ever to do it, 214 00:12:04,383 --> 00:12:06,783 I think that is much harder because... 215 00:12:07,743 --> 00:12:12,043 Uh, this... I'm kind of... I don't know if I really want to get to because, but 216 00:12:13,063 --> 00:12:13,403 yeah, 217 00:12:13,563 --> 00:12:18,713 uh...Maybe 218 00:12:18,733 --> 00:12:23,493 I'll get into it to some extent. I mean, part of how we orient to the world itself 219 00:12:23,634 --> 00:12:28,253 is, like, copy-pasted from society and copy-pasted 220 00:12:28,273 --> 00:12:29,014 from the 221 00:12:30,054 --> 00:12:33,693 culture, like, right from, you know, your up... like, right from when you were born. 222 00:12:33,734 --> 00:12:33,994 Like, 223 00:12:35,054 --> 00:12:37,994 your entire childhood, even before that, after that. 224 00:12:38,033 --> 00:12:41,854 You know, you're just accumulating tons of in- information about society and 225 00:12:42,634 --> 00:12:46,394 you have entered sections of your brain that are just dedicated to, you know, running 226 00:12:46,433 --> 00:12:48,334 simulations of other people's minds, 227 00:12:49,113 --> 00:12:53,013 uh, just so that you can orient yourself, you know, better to society. 228 00:12:53,253 --> 00:12:53,654 And 229 00:12:54,834 --> 00:12:59,093 when you're the first person in human history to say you have such-and-such unusual 230 00:12:59,113 --> 00:13:00,274 values and beliefs, 231 00:13:01,974 --> 00:13:06,193 your brain's immediate reaction is to say that there's something fundamentally wrong and 232 00:13:06,253 --> 00:13:07,173 broken about you. 233 00:13:09,953 --> 00:13:13,373 Uh, rather than go the other way and say, you know, maybe there's something, some way in 234 00:13:13,373 --> 00:13:13,613 which 235 00:13:14,433 --> 00:13:17,193 you and society are mismatching and maybe there's something wrong with society. 236 00:13:17,573 --> 00:13:20,493 Like, by default your brain is just going to say there's something wrong with you, 237 00:13:20,513 --> 00:13:21,053 that's... 238 00:13:22,293 --> 00:13:23,813 I've experienced that and I think 239 00:13:24,893 --> 00:13:29,613 I'm making a guess which I'm somewhat confident about, is that's a common response 240 00:13:30,273 --> 00:13:33,413 to someone deciding their values are different from literally all of society. 241 00:13:33,413 --> 00:13:36,973 They're the first person in human history to be, you know, feeling a certain way. 242 00:13:38,533 --> 00:13:38,993 And, 243 00:13:39,933 --> 00:13:44,693 yeah, I think that is a better description of the type of loneliness I feel, compared to 244 00:13:44,713 --> 00:13:49,693 the, you know, loneliness of someone who's gay in a religious town where, you know, 245 00:13:49,733 --> 00:13:53,613 majority of people don't support them, but they still know in their heart that what they 246 00:13:53,653 --> 00:13:54,673 think makes sense to them. 247 00:13:56,373 --> 00:13:57,253 And, yeah. 248 00:13:59,213 --> 00:13:59,553 So, 249 00:14:01,133 --> 00:14:03,753 yeah. That makes me lonely. Uh, 250 00:14:05,153 --> 00:14:08,953 now coming back to, you know, what specifically are my values and beliefs that make me so 251 00:14:09,053 --> 00:14:10,753 depressingly lonely. Uh, 252 00:14:14,153 --> 00:14:15,253 yeah, I think you can go 253 00:14:15,933 --> 00:14:20,173 read my website for more on this. But yeah, I mean, I basically think there is a 254 00:14:20,933 --> 00:14:25,873 non-trivial chance, you know, super intelligent AI is going to come in the next 255 00:14:25,993 --> 00:14:27,033 five years. 256 00:14:27,693 --> 00:14:29,633 And when I say non-trivial chance, 257 00:14:30,473 --> 00:14:32,833 I can make guesses on the likelihood. 258 00:14:32,833 --> 00:14:36,213 I think m- making g- these guesses are really hard, and, 259 00:14:37,793 --> 00:14:39,493 like, your guesses are not very robust. 260 00:14:39,513 --> 00:14:40,853 I'll talk about it later, uh, 261 00:14:41,873 --> 00:14:45,033 what I mean by non-rob- robust versus non-robust guesses. 262 00:14:45,033 --> 00:14:48,953 But, yeah, my guess is, you know, maybe one in four chance. Like, 25% probability. 263 00:14:49,313 --> 00:14:53,873 Unless, yeah, unless, you know, I take some extreme measures 264 00:14:53,973 --> 00:14:57,633 against it, you know, people influenced by me take extreme measures against it. 265 00:14:57,633 --> 00:14:57,913 Like, 266 00:15:01,173 --> 00:15:05,433 yeah, unless something changes. Like, when I'm making a prediction, I'm kind of assuming, 267 00:15:05,433 --> 00:15:10,313 you know, I made the prediction and I drop dead immediately, and I myself did not go and 268 00:15:10,333 --> 00:15:12,953 influence the world to change that reality. 269 00:15:12,993 --> 00:15:13,213 Like, 270 00:15:14,413 --> 00:15:19,293 predictions have a self-fulfilling prophecy kind of nature to them, 271 00:15:19,293 --> 00:15:19,673 where, 272 00:15:21,253 --> 00:15:24,653 you know, if you say aloud... If you think your prediction's kind of fine, but then if 273 00:15:24,673 --> 00:15:28,453 you say aloud your prediction, you know, uh, other people are influenced by the 274 00:15:28,493 --> 00:15:31,453 prediction, they can even make that prediction more real than it otherwise would have 275 00:15:31,493 --> 00:15:31,793 been. 276 00:15:32,873 --> 00:15:35,733 Like, because you are now influencing the very world you're predicting. 277 00:15:37,533 --> 00:15:41,073 So, yeah, I'm actually a bi- somewhat uncomfortable about making these predictions, 278 00:15:41,093 --> 00:15:43,833 because I understand how strong this effect can be. 279 00:15:44,093 --> 00:15:45,913 I mean, also, you know, most people are sheep. 280 00:15:45,933 --> 00:15:50,193 Most people don't think for themselves, they just copy what the leader or high status 281 00:15:50,253 --> 00:15:54,733 person in society tells them. So, that is another reason why if one leader comes and 282 00:15:54,753 --> 00:15:59,093 says, "You know, I predict this," it almost becomes like, "I want this to happen. 283 00:15:59,113 --> 00:16:03,233 I wish the world goes this way." And I'm like, "Fuck, no, that is not what I'm trying to 284 00:16:03,273 --> 00:16:07,653 say here." (laughs) I don't want there to be a 25% probability of super intelligent AI 285 00:16:07,693 --> 00:16:08,993 coming in the next five years. 286 00:16:09,653 --> 00:16:10,113 But, 287 00:16:11,313 --> 00:16:14,913 yeah, in the absence of my influence on the world, I think that could happen, and 288 00:16:16,513 --> 00:16:19,013 yeah, I find that depressing. Uh, but yeah. 289 00:16:19,733 --> 00:16:22,233 So that's the first thing. The second thing is, 290 00:16:23,113 --> 00:16:25,213 yeah, I'm very confident or, 291 00:16:26,533 --> 00:16:30,353 yeah, I'm fairly confident that the way I can go and influence this outcome, the way I 292 00:16:30,453 --> 00:16:33,953 should influence this outcome if I want, you know, have high effectiveness 293 00:16:34,913 --> 00:16:35,913 is to, 294 00:16:39,873 --> 00:16:44,453 is to go using some sort of force, shut down the people responsible for 295 00:16:44,493 --> 00:16:44,893 this. 296 00:16:45,693 --> 00:16:50,453 There are roughly 10 to 20,000 people working at the companies, 297 00:16:50,513 --> 00:16:55,293 uh, building super intelligent AI. This is DeepMind, whose offices are in London, 298 00:16:55,433 --> 00:16:55,873 uh, 299 00:16:56,533 --> 00:17:00,773 Anthropic, whose offices are in San Francisco, OpenAI, whose offices are also in San 300 00:17:00,853 --> 00:17:03,953 Francisco. Uh, these are specific buildings. 301 00:17:03,953 --> 00:17:06,973 You can go Google Maps, you can check the locations to all these buildings. 302 00:17:07,053 --> 00:17:07,273 Uh, 303 00:17:08,373 --> 00:17:10,993 they also have data centers not hosted in the buildings. 304 00:17:10,993 --> 00:17:13,873 I mean, Elon Musk recently built 100,000 305 00:17:14,693 --> 00:17:19,013 GPU data center, 100,000 H100 GPU data center in 306 00:17:19,073 --> 00:17:22,993 Memphis. You can see... Anyways, all of this is there on Google Maps, you'll find YouTube 307 00:17:23,013 --> 00:17:24,773 videos for all these offices. Uh, 308 00:17:25,533 --> 00:17:26,673 these are very specific 309 00:17:27,393 --> 00:17:28,233 locations 310 00:17:28,893 --> 00:17:33,753 that are going to have just, you know, point, point, point, point, point, and just boom. 311 00:17:33,753 --> 00:17:34,133 Like, 312 00:17:35,993 --> 00:17:39,553 completely disproportionate impact on the course of human history. 313 00:17:39,873 --> 00:17:42,793 Uh, like, you know, past 10,000 years of human history, and 314 00:17:43,533 --> 00:17:45,193 so many years beyond are just... 315 00:17:46,653 --> 00:17:48,833 I, I don't know, I don't know how to explain this. 316 00:17:48,833 --> 00:17:51,193 Like, I have this view of like, uh, 317 00:17:53,653 --> 00:17:56,733 causality as it runs through human history, and 318 00:17:57,393 --> 00:18:02,373 lines that, lines of causality that kind of, you know, converge and diverge. 319 00:18:03,093 --> 00:18:03,553 And, 320 00:18:05,113 --> 00:18:07,073 like, maybe I'll give a simple example. 321 00:18:07,093 --> 00:18:09,873 Let's say, you know, three people are there on this planet. 322 00:18:09,913 --> 00:18:12,953 Three people are doing three different things, maybe Alice, Bob, Carol. 323 00:18:12,953 --> 00:18:16,573 Alice ent- influenced Bob to do something, Bob got convinced. 324 00:18:16,693 --> 00:18:19,833 You know, Alice and Bob are now doing the same thing, Carol is doing their own separate 325 00:18:19,853 --> 00:18:23,633 things. You know, Alice kind of had more influence, Alice kind of merged these two lines 326 00:18:23,993 --> 00:18:27,445 because Alice exerted influence on Bob.Influence could be any way, you know. 327 00:18:27,445 --> 00:18:29,045 Alice persuaded Bob to do something. 328 00:18:29,046 --> 00:18:32,045 Alice, you know, threatened to kill Bob, and therefore, Bob went and listened to Alice, 329 00:18:32,065 --> 00:18:36,686 was Bob. But in some way, Alice got these lines to converge, so, you know, this 330 00:18:36,745 --> 00:18:40,985 particular point, like this line of causality kind of had more influence. 331 00:18:42,226 --> 00:18:47,125 And in general, leaders have the ability to, you know, kind of collapse the 332 00:18:47,125 --> 00:18:50,565 behavior of huge numbers of people into the behavior they want. 333 00:18:51,425 --> 00:18:51,745 Uh, 334 00:18:53,025 --> 00:18:56,465 so I generally kind of see history as, you know, like, okay, a billion people doing a 335 00:18:56,465 --> 00:18:59,886 billion different things. There are a few people at the center, like these master nodes, 336 00:18:59,905 --> 00:19:02,025 who can make collapse history in that way, and... 337 00:19:04,085 --> 00:19:08,746 I think these companies are like the extreme, extreme, extreme version of that, 338 00:19:10,185 --> 00:19:11,085 where... 339 00:19:13,465 --> 00:19:14,385 Yeah, man. It's like, 340 00:19:16,945 --> 00:19:21,846 for almost anything you do right now, if these companies succeed, you know, the 341 00:19:21,885 --> 00:19:26,125 sum total of your life's work approximates to zero, you will be forgotten after you die. 342 00:19:26,125 --> 00:19:28,245 Nothing you do will remember- will be remembered. 343 00:19:28,245 --> 00:19:30,325 Nothing you do will kind of matter in, 344 00:19:31,045 --> 00:19:32,465 you know, ten years from now. 345 00:19:33,865 --> 00:19:34,185 Like, 346 00:19:35,085 --> 00:19:39,525 you could be teaching, you know, your- you could be a teacher teaching, you know, the 347 00:19:39,545 --> 00:19:44,105 students in your class, and your teachings will make no difference to them, because five 348 00:19:44,145 --> 00:19:45,805 years from now, super intelligent AI comes. 349 00:19:46,165 --> 00:19:49,825 Either that AI can teach them everything, or that AI has literally murdered those 350 00:19:49,865 --> 00:19:54,685 students, or that AI has placed a dictator and the dictator tells the students what they 351 00:19:54,685 --> 00:19:59,025 should learn and, you know, edits their brains so that, that, that knowledge is instantly 352 00:19:59,265 --> 00:20:03,425 transferred to them. So, you know, what the hell is the point of you being a teacher if 353 00:20:04,005 --> 00:20:07,545 this is the kind of extreme outcomes your students are going to face in five years? 354 00:20:08,905 --> 00:20:11,545 Uh, you could be, you know, a 355 00:20:13,005 --> 00:20:14,285 startup founder 356 00:20:14,985 --> 00:20:17,105 working on, I don't know, 357 00:20:18,025 --> 00:20:22,125 sola- solar energy. So, I'm generally very optimistic about solar energy. 358 00:20:22,125 --> 00:20:26,145 I think one of the most influential things you can do for human history, at this 359 00:20:26,165 --> 00:20:29,825 particular point, at least in 2025, is to, you know, reduce the cost of electricity. 360 00:20:29,965 --> 00:20:32,425 I think solar is a good way to reduce the cost of electricity. 361 00:20:32,465 --> 00:20:35,925 That's a whole separate set of opinions I'll come to elsewhere. 362 00:20:36,305 --> 00:20:36,705 Uh, 363 00:20:38,025 --> 00:20:42,245 but yeah. I mean, even if you're a, you know, founder, you're going to push forward on 364 00:20:42,305 --> 00:20:43,085 some radically 365 00:20:43,745 --> 00:20:46,685 life-changing tech. Even then, it's not going to matter. 366 00:20:46,705 --> 00:20:49,325 The sum total of your life's output is approximately zero. 367 00:20:49,325 --> 00:20:52,385 You may just well have fucking died, and it would not matter 368 00:20:53,345 --> 00:20:57,785 if super intelligent AI comes, because super intelligent AI will find an even cheaper 369 00:20:57,825 --> 00:21:01,165 energy, cheaper energy source than whatever energy source you're finding. 370 00:21:01,685 --> 00:21:05,185 You know, you're, you'll be thinking, "I will reduce cost of electricity from, you know, 371 00:21:05,185 --> 00:21:09,085 ten cents per kilowatt to five cents per kilowatt, or two cents per kilowatt," and that 372 00:21:09,905 --> 00:21:14,365 AI would be like, "It's going to go from ten to, you know, 0.0001 cents per 373 00:21:14,405 --> 00:21:18,065 kilowatt," and maybe the bottleneck anymore is not how much energy you produce, but how 374 00:21:18,085 --> 00:21:20,205 you transmit it or something, and... 375 00:21:22,325 --> 00:21:25,965 Yeah, basically the outcomes are just going to be extremely radical if super intelligent 376 00:21:26,005 --> 00:21:27,385 AI comes about. Like, 377 00:21:29,465 --> 00:21:32,665 it's arguably more radical than, 378 00:21:33,445 --> 00:21:35,765 you know, the birth of homo sapiens on this planet. 379 00:21:36,485 --> 00:21:36,765 (laughs) Like, 380 00:21:38,205 --> 00:21:42,965 if you look at the world, like a lot of, like the world is complex even apart from 381 00:21:43,005 --> 00:21:45,865 humans. You know, life on Earth in general is complex. 382 00:21:48,385 --> 00:21:51,485 I think stars are complex. Earth is complex, but not that complex. 383 00:21:51,485 --> 00:21:54,005 I think life on earth makes things a little bit more complex. 384 00:21:54,005 --> 00:21:56,265 I think humans make things even more complex, you know. 385 00:21:56,685 --> 00:22:01,345 Human brains are kind of the most complex subject in the observable universe, 386 00:22:02,065 --> 00:22:06,485 that we know of. We may not know more, but what we know, we are the most complex thing to 387 00:22:06,485 --> 00:22:07,205 ever exist. 388 00:22:08,065 --> 00:22:10,385 And our world is very complex as a result. 389 00:22:10,385 --> 00:22:10,745 Uh, 390 00:22:12,525 --> 00:22:14,425 yeah, and I think AI is just going to 391 00:22:15,325 --> 00:22:19,085 take the complexity of the universe that many orders of magnitude higher 392 00:22:20,665 --> 00:22:22,525 if we get super intelligent AI. 393 00:22:27,025 --> 00:22:31,105 So yeah, where was I? Yeah, just complete collapse of causality of history into, you 394 00:22:31,125 --> 00:22:35,265 know, these few specific buildings, these few specific people who write code on their 395 00:22:35,285 --> 00:22:40,085 computers. Ten to twenty thousand people, affecting ten thousand years of history, of you 396 00:22:40,105 --> 00:22:44,765 know, fifty plus whatever billion years, fifty plus billion people who have ever 397 00:22:44,785 --> 00:22:46,385 existed on this planet. 398 00:22:47,105 --> 00:22:51,905 Uh, countless cultures. More cultures than I can list out on, you know, a fucking one 399 00:22:51,925 --> 00:22:52,265 hour 400 00:22:52,925 --> 00:22:53,725 video. Like, 401 00:22:54,585 --> 00:22:57,885 I can't describe the sum total of human history in a one hour video, obviously. 402 00:22:59,265 --> 00:22:59,705 Uh, 403 00:23:00,845 --> 00:23:05,405 but anyways, all of that is going to be wiped out, uh, if that is not going to matter 404 00:23:05,805 --> 00:23:07,405 in five years from now, 405 00:23:08,525 --> 00:23:08,965 uh, 406 00:23:10,005 --> 00:23:13,685 if one of these companies succeeds. I think there's a wonderful chance to succeed. 407 00:23:14,825 --> 00:23:19,285 I think the outcomes of that will be as radical as, you know, the end of the human race, 408 00:23:19,385 --> 00:23:20,945 a permanent dictator, 409 00:23:21,685 --> 00:23:22,325 who... 410 00:23:23,025 --> 00:23:25,485 Yeah, and why do I keep going back to the permanent dictator thing? 411 00:23:25,485 --> 00:23:25,985 It's just, 412 00:23:26,805 --> 00:23:29,065 intelligence gives you that kind of power, you know. 413 00:23:31,845 --> 00:23:36,425 In general, I mean, class is a major factor, but even like people who climb 414 00:23:36,465 --> 00:23:38,245 classes in society 415 00:23:38,885 --> 00:23:41,305 do have above average intelligence, I think this. 416 00:23:41,385 --> 00:23:41,665 Uh, 417 00:23:42,925 --> 00:23:47,165 Elon Musk has an above average IQ and that was part of what helped him climb from, you 418 00:23:47,185 --> 00:23:47,345 know, 419 00:23:48,245 --> 00:23:52,985 upper middle class, like from a family with maybe a million dollars to, you know, now a 420 00:23:53,505 --> 00:23:56,645 centi-billionaire. I think intelligence definitely plays a role. 421 00:23:56,645 --> 00:23:59,565 A lot of other factors play a role, but intelligence definitely plays a role here. 422 00:24:00,345 --> 00:24:00,905 Uh, 423 00:24:04,985 --> 00:24:08,185 yeah, especially people who are not born into the upper class, but people have climbed 424 00:24:08,185 --> 00:24:10,305 their way into it, I think are above average intelligence. 425 00:24:10,465 --> 00:24:10,885 Uh, but 426 00:24:11,545 --> 00:24:13,225 we don't actually even need to talk about that. 427 00:24:13,285 --> 00:24:13,665 Uh, 428 00:24:15,905 --> 00:24:17,305 what was I originally going to say? 429 00:24:18,605 --> 00:24:21,885 Yeah, I think intelligent people can rule over less intelligent people. 430 00:24:21,905 --> 00:24:25,065 Like, I'm not saying this should happen. I'm saying this does happen. 431 00:24:25,065 --> 00:24:27,505 Like, this is a claim about how reality is not how it should 432 00:24:27,505 --> 00:24:32,278 be.And intelligent people can find 433 00:24:32,278 --> 00:24:33,517 ways to do this. They 434 00:24:34,198 --> 00:24:35,017 understand, 435 00:24:35,637 --> 00:24:38,738 like they can... Not every intelligent person is great at everything. 436 00:24:38,877 --> 00:24:41,197 You know, some subset of people are just not. 437 00:24:41,197 --> 00:24:45,017 Like I don't think Einstein could become world dictator if he wanted to. 438 00:24:45,258 --> 00:24:47,958 Like he just was not good at that sort of work. 439 00:24:49,077 --> 00:24:49,757 Uh... 440 00:24:53,197 --> 00:24:57,597 But I think there is another type of intelligence which allows you to, you know, predict 441 00:24:57,917 --> 00:25:01,958 human behavior, control human behavior, predict not just 442 00:25:02,038 --> 00:25:06,117 individuals, but like groups, uh, organizations of 443 00:25:06,137 --> 00:25:07,058 individuals, 444 00:25:08,917 --> 00:25:13,718 uh, and knowing what... Yeah, being able to predict and control, you know, groups of 445 00:25:13,757 --> 00:25:14,217 people. 446 00:25:15,018 --> 00:25:15,277 Uh, 447 00:25:16,557 --> 00:25:19,997 there is a huge amount of skill to that and I think there are people who are really good 448 00:25:20,018 --> 00:25:21,618 at that skill. Uh, 449 00:25:23,317 --> 00:25:26,257 I mean, even right now, right? Like there are people who just 450 00:25:26,937 --> 00:25:30,457 have started a YouTube channel and they're now influencing politics. 451 00:25:30,457 --> 00:25:34,457 Like this is happening literally right now in multiple countries around the world. 452 00:25:34,517 --> 00:25:36,497 You know, like why am I making this video? 453 00:25:36,517 --> 00:25:41,177 I'm making this video because I realized that making videos is, uh, 454 00:25:42,157 --> 00:25:44,397 is an effective way of gaining power over the world. 455 00:25:45,217 --> 00:25:45,757 And 456 00:25:46,497 --> 00:25:50,037 most people don't realize that. Like everyone has a camera, everyone has a laptop. 457 00:25:50,277 --> 00:25:52,217 Not everyone, but you know what I mean. 458 00:25:52,817 --> 00:25:56,017 Millions, tens of millions of people have a laptop and a camera, but they're not making 459 00:25:56,037 --> 00:25:59,497 videos. I'm making a video because, you know, I realized this is an opportunity I have 460 00:25:59,997 --> 00:26:01,677 and I should go bet on this. 461 00:26:02,937 --> 00:26:04,717 And the re- yeah, the reason I'm not 462 00:26:05,357 --> 00:26:08,677 choosing to become a full-time YouTuber is because I feel I have higher leverage 463 00:26:08,717 --> 00:26:12,397 opportunities apart from this. Like this is maybe not the thing I'm meant to do. 464 00:26:13,197 --> 00:26:16,577 Like I could be really good at this, but I think there are other things I could be better 465 00:26:16,577 --> 00:26:17,717 at and I'm going to do this. 466 00:26:18,537 --> 00:26:22,057 So yeah, again, coming back to what I was saying, intelligent people dominate the Earth. 467 00:26:22,237 --> 00:26:22,597 Uh, 468 00:26:24,817 --> 00:26:28,437 I think a super intelligent AI can just do that, but way, way more. 469 00:26:30,077 --> 00:26:30,397 Like 470 00:26:32,297 --> 00:26:36,037 a super intelligent AI persuading people to do something is going to look 471 00:26:37,357 --> 00:26:38,717 more like 472 00:26:40,717 --> 00:26:45,537 humans training a monkey to solve their math puzzles for them than it's going to look 473 00:26:45,577 --> 00:26:46,117 like, you know, 474 00:26:46,917 --> 00:26:50,277 Hitler convincing his followers to murder the Jews or whatever. 475 00:26:50,417 --> 00:26:51,857 Like it's not going to be 476 00:26:52,977 --> 00:26:53,857 a super pers- 477 00:26:54,457 --> 00:26:58,537 It's not going to be a, you know, really persuasive orator like Adolf Hitler who, you 478 00:26:58,557 --> 00:27:01,957 know, wins elections, comes to power, tells people what to do. 479 00:27:01,957 --> 00:27:05,597 It's going to literally be the way, you know, humans tell monkeys do this or humans train 480 00:27:05,597 --> 00:27:09,817 dogs and cats, you know, same way. A super intelligent AI will just train us, you know, 481 00:27:09,817 --> 00:27:11,077 the way we train a dog. 482 00:27:12,097 --> 00:27:12,757 And... 483 00:27:16,417 --> 00:27:19,197 yeah, and the intelligence gap could be even wider than that. 484 00:27:19,277 --> 00:27:21,497 Like I'm giving kind of a lower bound here, like 485 00:27:22,337 --> 00:27:26,397 the gap could be more like humans and bacteria than it might be, you know, humans and 486 00:27:26,397 --> 00:27:31,157 dogs. Like for humans the idea of, you know, we will 487 00:27:31,157 --> 00:27:35,157 persuade the bacteria by giving it some molecules into this, like... 488 00:27:36,137 --> 00:27:40,617 They're just like, "No, we are just going to, you know, wipe out the entire race of 489 00:27:41,017 --> 00:27:42,437 bacteria because..." 490 00:27:43,817 --> 00:27:44,877 Not entire race but, 491 00:27:45,557 --> 00:27:47,397 you know, like just wipe out billions of bacteria. 492 00:27:47,397 --> 00:27:50,817 They're in the way, we're going to wash our hands. Billions of bacteria done, move on. 493 00:27:51,617 --> 00:27:52,837 Same with AI, it's just going to 494 00:27:53,697 --> 00:27:58,297 move on with its life and wipe us out as an inconsequential fact for it. 495 00:27:58,717 --> 00:27:59,237 Uh... 496 00:28:01,237 --> 00:28:02,897 I think these types of things can happen. 497 00:28:04,777 --> 00:28:07,217 I think a very small number of people are going to do this. 498 00:28:07,657 --> 00:28:07,957 Oh, 499 00:28:08,737 --> 00:28:13,597 and the next thing that makes me even further lonely is the idea that, okay, maybe 500 00:28:13,657 --> 00:28:15,137 we should go and fight these people? 501 00:28:16,477 --> 00:28:20,177 Like fight doesn't necessarily have to mean, you know, we literally go and shoot them, 502 00:28:20,417 --> 00:28:20,817 but 503 00:28:21,457 --> 00:28:26,037 fight means we use hostile tactics like, yeah, 504 00:28:26,137 --> 00:28:29,397 convince other people that, you know, these companies need to be shut down. 505 00:28:29,577 --> 00:28:32,597 You know, convince other militaries that, you know, maybe you should invade these 506 00:28:32,637 --> 00:28:36,037 buildings and burn the buildings to the ground if that's what it's going to take to 507 00:28:36,537 --> 00:28:38,377 prevent the creation of super intelligent AI. 508 00:28:39,177 --> 00:28:39,997 Uh... 509 00:28:41,797 --> 00:28:46,577 In, uh, our society, which is, you know, a bunch of somewhat 510 00:28:46,597 --> 00:28:49,497 democratic countries who build nuclear weapons and, 511 00:28:50,397 --> 00:28:54,997 you know, trade resources from each other at threat of nuclear annihilation, like that's 512 00:28:55,017 --> 00:28:56,897 kind of our world right now, uh, 513 00:28:58,297 --> 00:28:59,337 where the US 514 00:29:00,317 --> 00:29:05,157 government, few people in the intelligence community in the US government get to 515 00:29:06,557 --> 00:29:11,077 have a lot of say on, you know, which other countries governments do they threaten and 516 00:29:11,437 --> 00:29:16,297 which like, you know, you give us a certain amount of crude oil or water, otherwise we'll 517 00:29:16,297 --> 00:29:18,477 bury your entire race into the ground and... 518 00:29:19,417 --> 00:29:24,397 Uh, US citizens have an implicit... like they have the implicit consent of 519 00:29:24,397 --> 00:29:28,057 the US citizens. At least the US citizens are not doing anything to change the state of 520 00:29:28,097 --> 00:29:28,677 affairs. 521 00:29:29,637 --> 00:29:30,257 Uh... 522 00:29:32,357 --> 00:29:35,817 Given that we do live in a world where, you know, there are small groups of people, like 523 00:29:35,837 --> 00:29:40,537 small pockets of power in various governments in the world, in the US government, in the 524 00:29:40,597 --> 00:29:43,377 Chinese government, in the Israeli government, there are, you know, five to ten people 525 00:29:43,377 --> 00:29:45,317 who really have that kind of concentrated power. 526 00:29:46,017 --> 00:29:46,537 Uh... 527 00:29:47,737 --> 00:29:50,397 yeah, one lever of control you can, 528 00:29:51,177 --> 00:29:54,977 uh, use here is just go and convince those fightin' people that, you know, we really want 529 00:29:55,037 --> 00:29:56,157 these buildings shut down. 530 00:29:56,957 --> 00:29:59,937 We want these buildings shut down. We want their funding to be cut off. 531 00:29:59,937 --> 00:30:03,077 We want these people to be in prison if they're going to violate all this. 532 00:30:03,917 --> 00:30:04,277 Like 533 00:30:05,697 --> 00:30:07,437 that is one way you can do- go about it. 534 00:30:07,437 --> 00:30:11,057 I think there are some people in the like, you know, less strong effect of all these 535 00:30:11,097 --> 00:30:14,457 communities who are going about this which is basically, you know, convincing 536 00:30:15,197 --> 00:30:19,497 policy makers in Washington DC and the US government that, you know, these companies need 537 00:30:19,517 --> 00:30:20,357 to be shut down. 538 00:30:23,257 --> 00:30:27,497 And that's one route you can take. That's not the route I want to take and that's not the 539 00:30:27,497 --> 00:30:30,317 route I am persuaded as being the right route to take. 540 00:30:30,557 --> 00:30:35,293 Uh-I want to take a broader route of just convince everyone, like convince the 541 00:30:35,333 --> 00:30:39,613 general public that, you know, we are in deep, deep shit right now. (laughs) And... 542 00:30:41,213 --> 00:30:45,253 yeah, every single person watching this video, there is a one in four chance 543 00:30:46,393 --> 00:30:46,913 you and 544 00:30:48,354 --> 00:30:53,093 everyone and everything you know is either going to be murdered or under a dictatorship 545 00:30:53,133 --> 00:30:56,233 beyond your imagination, or some equally weird third outcome. 546 00:30:58,014 --> 00:30:59,793 Like, all of you are going to face this 547 00:31:00,813 --> 00:31:03,833 unless you take some actions otherwise. 548 00:31:05,194 --> 00:31:10,133 And yeah, I want to work on the route of, you know, convincing general public that 549 00:31:10,793 --> 00:31:11,833 this has to change, 550 00:31:14,553 --> 00:31:19,153 and apparently that makes me very lonely. Like why is... 551 00:31:19,793 --> 00:31:21,533 why am I the only person saying this? 552 00:31:22,833 --> 00:31:23,353 Like... 553 00:31:25,633 --> 00:31:29,273 and, you know, I could do an entire, like multiple hours of video on 554 00:31:29,873 --> 00:31:33,953 why people apathetic, why people don't care, why people are trained to not care, why 555 00:31:33,993 --> 00:31:36,033 people train themselves to not care, and 556 00:31:37,053 --> 00:31:38,113 uh, that's... 557 00:31:38,753 --> 00:31:42,613 like it's not just about care. There's been an entire series on why people lack technical 558 00:31:42,673 --> 00:31:43,953 knowledge, and why 559 00:31:46,273 --> 00:31:49,833 like technical knowledge itself is used as a source of power. 560 00:31:50,053 --> 00:31:52,973 Like instead of, "I have the knowledge and I'll share it with you," it's like, "I have 561 00:31:52,993 --> 00:31:55,733 the knowledge and therefore I'll fool you into funding, you know, whatever the hell I 562 00:31:55,793 --> 00:31:56,173 want." 563 00:31:56,793 --> 00:31:59,433 Like that's a significant part of how society runs. 564 00:31:59,453 --> 00:31:59,713 Like 565 00:32:00,753 --> 00:32:04,093 again, coming back to the thing I said before, the intelligent dominate the earth. 566 00:32:04,093 --> 00:32:07,893 (laughs) That is not just, you know, politicians who dominate the earth, that's also 567 00:32:09,073 --> 00:32:12,733 academics who get funding to work on whatever innate bullshit they want. 568 00:32:12,853 --> 00:32:17,493 Uh, like this entire nonprofit industry is, you know, extract funding from the 569 00:32:17,553 --> 00:32:22,533 government, like to the odd, to the tune of hundreds of billions, maybe trillion 570 00:32:22,553 --> 00:32:25,073 plus dollars. Like there's, uh... 571 00:32:31,473 --> 00:32:31,853 yeah. 572 00:32:32,893 --> 00:32:37,533 I mean, I kind of also want to say like there's entire fractions of industry that are 573 00:32:37,573 --> 00:32:39,213 kind of irrelevant, and 574 00:32:40,013 --> 00:32:43,573 sometimes the people in those companies know they're irrelevance and sometimes they don't 575 00:32:43,633 --> 00:32:44,133 know. But 576 00:32:44,913 --> 00:32:47,993 yeah, my point, what I was coming back to is, 577 00:32:49,593 --> 00:32:54,313 yeah, there's a bunch of reasons why I have become very lonely in this opinion, why most 578 00:32:54,353 --> 00:32:54,733 people 579 00:32:55,333 --> 00:32:59,133 don't come to the conclusion that maybe the number one thing they should do with their 580 00:32:59,173 --> 00:33:00,973 lives is to be like, "How do we shut down 581 00:33:02,633 --> 00:33:07,113 these few companies, uh, these 10 to 20,000 odd people on earth, 582 00:33:08,193 --> 00:33:10,953 uh, from building super intelligent AI?" 583 00:33:12,653 --> 00:33:14,733 (car horn blaring) And by the way to do this is again, you know, 584 00:33:15,833 --> 00:33:18,953 be hostile, don't play nice, still like, "Oh please don't do it. 585 00:33:18,973 --> 00:33:20,993 It'll be bad." But like, 586 00:33:22,073 --> 00:33:25,493 you know, "We are going to fucking destroy you if you don't stop right now." (laughs) 587 00:33:25,493 --> 00:33:27,333 Like that needs to be the kind of tone here. 588 00:33:28,553 --> 00:33:32,473 And I can again talk in, talk about, you know, specific measures, specific concrete 589 00:33:32,473 --> 00:33:37,193 things that can be done, like kind of details of those, but there is a vibe shift. 590 00:33:37,253 --> 00:33:41,073 Like there's a complete vibe that I find missing even in this handful of people who are 591 00:33:41,073 --> 00:33:42,053 talking about this. 592 00:33:44,153 --> 00:33:44,773 Like... 593 00:33:47,173 --> 00:33:49,913 I don't know, all of this is going to sound like propaganda coming from me. 594 00:33:49,913 --> 00:33:53,833 Like if I was watching my own video, I would be calling my own video propaganda, 595 00:33:54,453 --> 00:33:58,953 and I'm not exag- exaggerating when I say this, so take this as propaganda. 596 00:33:58,953 --> 00:34:02,253 Don't take this as unbiased kind of neutral facts being presented to you. 597 00:34:02,593 --> 00:34:05,513 I am presenting facts to you that will persuade you to follow me. 598 00:34:05,713 --> 00:34:07,893 Like this, you know, essence of propaganda. 599 00:34:08,673 --> 00:34:11,393 Like I'm selectively only pushing those facts that 600 00:34:12,033 --> 00:34:16,433 further my agenda. So this is propaganda, but I mean, yeah, coming back to the missing 601 00:34:16,473 --> 00:34:17,673 vibe, it's like... 602 00:34:19,733 --> 00:34:24,713 you know, like Kim Jong-un has, uh, you know, squads of women 603 00:34:24,773 --> 00:34:29,193 in each city, like calls them pleasure squads so he can basically rape. Uh... 604 00:34:30,293 --> 00:34:33,173 yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think I probably should be having a trigger warning of 605 00:34:33,193 --> 00:34:36,113 something at the start. (laughs) I talk about lot of, you know, serious shit. 606 00:34:36,793 --> 00:34:38,033 Uh, but yeah... 607 00:34:39,973 --> 00:34:43,813 and again, that is just a way for him to assert his, you know, authority. 608 00:34:44,013 --> 00:34:48,093 Like Kim Jong-un could easily pay your sex worker if he just wants to have sex. 609 00:34:48,113 --> 00:34:48,313 Like 610 00:34:49,113 --> 00:34:52,393 that- that's not the point. The point is to assert that he can rape whoever he wants and 611 00:34:52,393 --> 00:34:53,153 get away with it. 612 00:34:53,873 --> 00:34:57,693 You know, I think who was it? Saddam Hussein's son, I think went and raped this 613 00:34:57,773 --> 00:35:02,733 sportsman's girlfriend because I think the sportsman underperformed 614 00:35:02,753 --> 00:35:04,093 for their country or something. 615 00:35:05,673 --> 00:35:09,093 Like, you know, if you read a lot of history you will get to read all these types of 616 00:35:09,133 --> 00:35:09,753 stories. 617 00:35:10,673 --> 00:35:13,633 You know, Hitler, obviously Hitler tortured people for fun. 618 00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:17,733 Like it was not just, "Oh Jews are bad, kill the Jews," but also Hitler actually enjoyed, 619 00:35:17,753 --> 00:35:19,113 you know, torturing people. Like 620 00:35:19,713 --> 00:35:21,533 that is a part of who he was. 621 00:35:23,233 --> 00:35:23,793 Uh... 622 00:35:25,333 --> 00:35:30,113 Oh my battery is low. I think give me 30 seconds, I need to put my 623 00:35:30,153 --> 00:35:31,113 thing for charging. 624 00:35:34,813 --> 00:35:42,313 (thudding sound) 625 00:35:42,733 --> 00:35:54,313 (thudding sound) 626 00:35:59,333 --> 00:36:01,273 Yeah. Cool. We are, we are back. 627 00:36:02,693 --> 00:36:04,133 Uh, no we're not back. 628 00:36:05,453 --> 00:36:06,793 (thudding sound) We're back now. Yeah. 629 00:36:07,953 --> 00:36:10,993 Where was I? Yeah, Hitler tortured people for fun. 630 00:36:11,233 --> 00:36:11,693 Uh, 631 00:36:12,713 --> 00:36:16,973 yeah again, Genghis Khan wiped out 10% of the world's population, you know. 632 00:36:18,693 --> 00:36:23,093 At the start of the Cold War, you know, just after the US had invented nuclear weapons, 633 00:36:23,093 --> 00:36:27,093 there was a huge set of people who basically said the US should now go and nuke a bunch 634 00:36:27,113 --> 00:36:30,773 of cities. In that time, Soviet Union, you know, Moscow, St. Peters- St. 635 00:36:31,033 --> 00:36:35,053 Petersburg, Stalingrad, a bunch of them, and just wiped them off the earth and then be 636 00:36:35,093 --> 00:36:39,761 like, you know...... establish a nuclear monopoly and then you can basically rule the 637 00:36:39,781 --> 00:36:42,101 entire world under threat of nuclear annihilation. 638 00:36:42,182 --> 00:36:46,482 You can be, like, any go- government that refuses to follow orders is just, like, wiped 639 00:36:46,661 --> 00:36:47,941 out of existence. Like, 640 00:36:49,142 --> 00:36:49,981 that's a thing. 641 00:36:50,602 --> 00:36:53,061 Anyways, no, my point is... Why am I bringing up all this? 642 00:36:53,821 --> 00:36:58,001 My point is, if you read enough history you get to read about a lot of dark shit. 643 00:36:58,161 --> 00:36:58,362 And 644 00:36:59,182 --> 00:37:03,921 I think none of that made me feel bad in the way that, you know, these 645 00:37:04,022 --> 00:37:06,961 AI companies going for super intelligent AIs made me feel bad. 646 00:37:07,121 --> 00:37:08,881 (laughs) I think that's all I'm kind of getting to. 647 00:37:08,881 --> 00:37:09,222 Like, 648 00:37:11,221 --> 00:37:15,261 and maybe part of it is because it's in the past and I know we kind of turned out okay. 649 00:37:16,361 --> 00:37:18,281 But also, like, these actions 650 00:37:18,921 --> 00:37:23,542 don't have the same kind of effect. Like, Hitler starting a world war still means, 651 00:37:25,122 --> 00:37:27,821 you know, there's a good chance we'll turn out okay. Like... 652 00:37:31,122 --> 00:37:35,701 Uh, actually, no, I think the Hitler example is a bad example because there is a small, 653 00:37:35,701 --> 00:37:38,461 small chance that if a bunch of things went different, the Nazis could have actually 654 00:37:38,461 --> 00:37:41,722 taken over the world. So, maybe I'll leave the Hitler example for now. 655 00:37:41,742 --> 00:37:43,081 Let me take another example. 656 00:37:44,702 --> 00:37:46,661 Yeah, actually, you know what? Let me take that example. 657 00:37:46,981 --> 00:37:51,622 Even if the Nazis took over the world, that would be a less horrible outcome compared to 658 00:37:51,641 --> 00:37:54,401 when a super intelligent AI murders every single person on this planet. 659 00:37:55,082 --> 00:37:59,141 Like, I would rather have, you know, the Nazis win the World War and take over the world 660 00:37:59,221 --> 00:38:02,381 than I would have, you know, Sam Altman crown himself... 661 00:38:03,801 --> 00:38:07,722 Sam Altman, in the process of trying to crown him some world dictator end up, you know, 662 00:38:07,741 --> 00:38:11,881 murdering everyone on earth. Like, not because Sam Altman wants to murder everyone on 663 00:38:11,881 --> 00:38:13,901 earth. I don't think Sam Altman wants to do that. 664 00:38:13,901 --> 00:38:14,402 I don't think 665 00:38:15,961 --> 00:38:20,941 Demis Hassabis or Shane Legg or Dariu Amadei or Elon Musk or 666 00:38:20,941 --> 00:38:21,241 ... 667 00:38:22,241 --> 00:38:23,762 give a royal if these people 668 00:38:24,561 --> 00:38:28,062 get some pleasure out of causing the extinction of the human race. 669 00:38:28,801 --> 00:38:30,361 Uh, but 670 00:38:31,981 --> 00:38:36,881 yeah, their desire to achieve certain outcomes on the world is great 671 00:38:36,901 --> 00:38:37,661 enough that 672 00:38:38,341 --> 00:38:40,701 they are willing to risk some amount of, you know, 673 00:38:41,941 --> 00:38:44,701 mass murder of all of every single person. 674 00:38:44,901 --> 00:38:45,141 Like, 675 00:38:46,021 --> 00:38:49,541 mass murder of every person in every region in a, on earth. 676 00:38:52,521 --> 00:38:53,121 And 677 00:38:55,541 --> 00:38:58,161 yeah, like, I find that depressing. Like, 678 00:39:00,341 --> 00:39:04,121 yeah, I think my background coming here is also that you kind of need to prioritize. 679 00:39:04,141 --> 00:39:04,521 Like, 680 00:39:06,301 --> 00:39:10,021 I mean, the internet kind of tells you about, like, all the problems in the world and all 681 00:39:10,041 --> 00:39:10,981 at once. Like, 682 00:39:12,701 --> 00:39:16,361 and I can't obviously solve all the problems or even care to pay attention to all the 683 00:39:16,361 --> 00:39:20,201 problems. And I think actually I should not pay attention to all the problems. 684 00:39:20,201 --> 00:39:24,161 I think you will kind of go insane if you spend all your time paying attention to all the 685 00:39:24,161 --> 00:39:27,961 problems about the world that the internet, like, that people on, use the internet to 686 00:39:27,981 --> 00:39:29,241 tell you about. Uh, 687 00:39:33,781 --> 00:39:38,461 yeah, and then when you prioritize you end up with things like, you know, okay, climate 688 00:39:38,541 --> 00:39:41,501 change might kill between 10 and 100 million people. 689 00:39:41,501 --> 00:39:46,281 And because 100 million people is not a large number of pe- large enough number of people 690 00:39:46,341 --> 00:39:50,021 to be murdered, therefore I am not going to think about climate change. 691 00:39:50,021 --> 00:39:53,481 And I think that is true, by the way. I don't think about climate change for this exact 692 00:39:53,521 --> 00:39:53,881 reason, 693 00:39:54,881 --> 00:39:58,641 because there are even bigger and more depressing problems in the world. 694 00:39:59,541 --> 00:40:02,461 (laughs) And yeah, again, why... 695 00:40:05,761 --> 00:40:09,841 Yeah, I think I'm coming... Again, I come from, like, this is just my bias. 696 00:40:09,881 --> 00:40:13,421 I come from a bit of this EA kind of prioritization mindset 697 00:40:14,261 --> 00:40:16,381 which obviously a lot of people don't come from. 698 00:40:17,641 --> 00:40:18,721 But my point is, yeah, 699 00:40:19,541 --> 00:40:23,101 even out of all the depressing things that you could think could happen to the world in 700 00:40:23,141 --> 00:40:26,301 the, in your own lifetime, like, while you're still alive... 701 00:40:26,321 --> 00:40:26,621 I'm not 702 00:40:27,281 --> 00:40:29,961 talking about what happens after you die, I'm talking about while you're still alive. 703 00:40:30,281 --> 00:40:31,721 Like, the people watching this video. 704 00:40:32,721 --> 00:40:33,241 Uh, 705 00:40:35,361 --> 00:40:37,821 yeah, out of all the outcomes you can think of, I think, you know, 706 00:40:39,361 --> 00:40:44,201 a world dictator using super intelligent AI to persuade everyone into whatever ideology 707 00:40:44,221 --> 00:40:46,781 he wants and building what he really wants, I think 708 00:40:47,721 --> 00:40:48,861 that's kind of depressing. 709 00:40:49,921 --> 00:40:52,301 I think everyone being murdered is kind of depressing. 710 00:40:54,681 --> 00:40:59,221 Yeah, I think it's one of the most depressing facts about human existence that what you 711 00:40:59,281 --> 00:41:03,981 do won't matter, your morality won't matter, you know, your purpose in life won't 712 00:41:03,981 --> 00:41:05,781 matter. You will not have purpose in life. 713 00:41:05,781 --> 00:41:06,041 Like, 714 00:41:07,701 --> 00:41:11,061 and I think this is something, like, if AI keeps going more and more powerful, another 715 00:41:11,101 --> 00:41:12,761 two or three years people are going to realize this. 716 00:41:12,761 --> 00:41:17,521 Like, you know, 10,000 people have completely destroyed the morality and purpose in life 717 00:41:17,541 --> 00:41:21,701 of, you know, eight billion people. Like, what the fuck? (laughs) You know? 718 00:41:22,801 --> 00:41:25,881 I don't know, I'm laughing because I don't know what to do but laugh. 719 00:41:25,881 --> 00:41:27,381 Like, there are times where I... 720 00:41:30,641 --> 00:41:32,701 yeah, there are times where I literally can't 721 00:41:33,381 --> 00:41:38,041 work, like, I'm just upset about this to the point I'm just like, "Nah, I'm not going to 722 00:41:38,061 --> 00:41:39,801 work today. I'm kind of done." 723 00:41:40,901 --> 00:41:41,341 And 724 00:41:43,081 --> 00:41:43,561 maybe 725 00:41:44,261 --> 00:41:48,221 if I make enough of these authentic videos you'll get to see me in that type of mood too. 726 00:41:48,221 --> 00:41:50,461 I think that's a complete possibility. 727 00:41:50,521 --> 00:41:50,801 I think 728 00:41:51,461 --> 00:41:53,361 today I'm not in that depressed a mood. 729 00:41:56,861 --> 00:42:01,161 So yeah, again, looking, so yeah, right, I am going on a lot of tangents. 730 00:42:01,181 --> 00:42:02,921 My point is, yeah, there is a missing vibe 731 00:42:03,761 --> 00:42:07,201 to a lot of AI safety discussions. Uh, 732 00:42:10,621 --> 00:42:12,581 and that vibe is, yeah, that 733 00:42:14,461 --> 00:42:17,581 Hitler was nowhere as dangerous as these people could be. 734 00:42:18,381 --> 00:42:21,661 Like, people have not at their gut level internalized that 735 00:42:22,861 --> 00:42:24,881 we are in more danger than the people 736 00:42:25,781 --> 00:42:29,801 living in the countries during World War II when, you know, nuclear bombs were invented, 737 00:42:29,801 --> 00:42:34,701 and, you know, Cold War happened. Like, that was a less dangerf- dangerous 738 00:42:34,741 --> 00:42:38,421 phase of human history than the phase of human, p- phase of history we are going through 739 00:42:38,441 --> 00:42:40,241 right now in 2025. 740 00:42:41,721 --> 00:42:44,261 And that is, yeah, that's a missing vibe. 741 00:42:44,281 --> 00:42:48,431 Like-You internalize vibes from everything, right? 742 00:42:48,431 --> 00:42:52,491 Like from the people around you, from the movies you watch, from the businesses that have 743 00:42:52,511 --> 00:42:53,251 been built. Like, 744 00:42:54,811 --> 00:42:58,251 does anything about the world around you tell you right now you're living in the most, 745 00:42:58,271 --> 00:43:00,371 one of the most dangerous phases of human history? 746 00:43:01,072 --> 00:43:05,431 Like, think about it. Do the people in the shop give you that vibe? 747 00:43:05,831 --> 00:43:06,211 Do the 748 00:43:06,971 --> 00:43:08,892 news channels you watch give you that vibe? 749 00:43:08,952 --> 00:43:13,111 Do the, you know, the items you order on fucking Amazon or... I, I don't know. 750 00:43:13,251 --> 00:43:14,851 I don't know which countries people are watching this. 751 00:43:14,851 --> 00:43:16,691 I don't know if they have home delivery 752 00:43:17,612 --> 00:43:20,912 for goods in their countries. (microphone rustling) I'm sure a lot of people do. 753 00:43:20,992 --> 00:43:22,532 Maybe they can't afford it. Uh, 754 00:43:24,091 --> 00:43:26,051 like none of this gives you the vibe we are 755 00:43:26,851 --> 00:43:28,651 in a lot of danger right now? 756 00:43:30,891 --> 00:43:31,431 And 757 00:43:33,511 --> 00:43:38,351 none of this gives the vibe of there are a very small number of specific set of 758 00:43:38,491 --> 00:43:38,871 people 759 00:43:39,632 --> 00:43:40,831 to the point where I can, 760 00:43:41,632 --> 00:43:45,091 like tomorrow I can go and make a document of like, here are the 10,000 people. 761 00:43:46,051 --> 00:43:47,392 It's not like, 762 00:43:49,831 --> 00:43:52,471 uh, what should I say? A force of nature. 763 00:43:52,511 --> 00:43:52,751 Like, 764 00:43:54,371 --> 00:43:56,232 yeah, I don't believe in forces of nature. 765 00:43:56,752 --> 00:44:00,031 I mean, I think great men can kind of shape any outcome. 766 00:44:00,172 --> 00:44:00,471 Like, 767 00:44:01,331 --> 00:44:04,691 but that's a separate discussion and theories of history, which I won't get into today. 768 00:44:04,911 --> 00:44:05,191 Uh, 769 00:44:07,531 --> 00:44:08,171 uh, 770 00:44:08,811 --> 00:44:12,371 yeah, so that's missing vibe. I noticed the missing vibe of, you know, we need to fucking 771 00:44:12,411 --> 00:44:13,171 fight this. 772 00:44:14,091 --> 00:44:14,551 Uh, 773 00:44:15,971 --> 00:44:17,551 the missing vibe of, you know, 774 00:44:19,911 --> 00:44:23,931 if these 10,000 people did not get to do what they wanted to do, you know, 775 00:44:25,132 --> 00:44:30,111 that's a very, very small price to pay compared to, you know, the extreme outcomes 776 00:44:30,111 --> 00:44:32,431 we're facing if you let them go ahead with what they want to do. 777 00:44:36,591 --> 00:44:39,591 Yeah. And all this makes me lonely. Yeah. 778 00:44:41,271 --> 00:44:45,811 I could maybe talk more about why a bunch of people in the AI safety 779 00:44:45,831 --> 00:44:47,411 community have this 780 00:44:48,131 --> 00:44:52,171 idea of we will just go and persuade these people and, 781 00:44:54,291 --> 00:44:56,711 you know, therefore nothing bad will happen. 782 00:44:56,731 --> 00:45:00,271 You know, not definitely nothing bad will happen, but we will persuade these people to 783 00:45:00,371 --> 00:45:03,111 not do it. And that's our best shot at preventing this. 784 00:45:03,131 --> 00:45:03,411 Like, 785 00:45:04,651 --> 00:45:08,511 why is that quite a lot of people seem to think that's the same way to approach this 786 00:45:08,551 --> 00:45:09,051 problem? 787 00:45:12,271 --> 00:45:12,891 Uh, 788 00:45:17,191 --> 00:45:21,591 (machine whirring) actually I think there's a lot of articles on that kind of... 789 00:45:22,711 --> 00:45:26,151 Yeah, I'm feeling a bit tired. It's like 45 minutes into this video. 790 00:45:27,131 --> 00:45:27,471 Yeah. 791 00:45:31,031 --> 00:45:31,351 So, 792 00:45:33,811 --> 00:45:35,811 okay. I mean, I think I'll summarize it this way. 793 00:45:35,831 --> 00:45:36,671 Uh, I think 794 00:45:39,111 --> 00:45:42,891 starting conflicts with people makes you worse at finding the truth. 795 00:45:43,451 --> 00:45:43,891 Uh, 796 00:45:45,131 --> 00:45:46,131 like when you... 797 00:45:47,531 --> 00:45:48,711 This, okay, maybe I'll put it 798 00:45:49,331 --> 00:45:52,751 like in way, this way. When you decide to kill someone, uh, 799 00:45:53,711 --> 00:45:58,251 you need to, or you often tend to, you know, dehumanize that 800 00:45:58,291 --> 00:46:01,611 person in your eyes even before you actually, you know, put the bullet through their 801 00:46:01,611 --> 00:46:03,151 skull. And 802 00:46:05,331 --> 00:46:09,171 that means there's a part of reality you're kind of choosing to look away from, uh, 803 00:46:10,011 --> 00:46:10,531 because, 804 00:46:11,331 --> 00:46:12,771 you know, those facts are inconvenient. 805 00:46:12,791 --> 00:46:14,291 The fact that, you know, this person 806 00:46:15,091 --> 00:46:19,351 has certain feelings, certain thoughts, uh, that their worldview kind of makes internal 807 00:46:19,391 --> 00:46:21,891 sense to them. Like all these facts are kind of inconvenient to you. 808 00:46:23,611 --> 00:46:25,351 Therefore, you will look away before you shoot them. 809 00:46:26,191 --> 00:46:26,611 And 810 00:46:28,511 --> 00:46:31,591 oh, by the way, I am not saying you should shoot AI developers. 811 00:46:31,611 --> 00:46:34,711 That's a whole separate topic. I'm not advocating terrorism in this video. 812 00:46:34,831 --> 00:46:38,831 I'll maybe get, get to that later. Uh, but again, coming to conflicts and why they make 813 00:46:38,831 --> 00:46:39,811 you less a truth seeker. 814 00:46:41,091 --> 00:46:45,351 Yeah, I think conflicts mean there are parts of reality we'll choose to ignore. 815 00:46:45,811 --> 00:46:49,571 There are parts of reality that not just we will choose to ignore, but you want all your 816 00:46:49,631 --> 00:46:51,331 followers to also kind of ignore. 817 00:46:52,631 --> 00:46:53,171 Uh, 818 00:46:58,071 --> 00:47:00,591 yeah, again, it's exactly what I'm saying. 819 00:47:00,591 --> 00:47:03,711 There are parts of reality you don't want your followers to not know about. 820 00:47:03,931 --> 00:47:07,371 And again, you might take some measures to prevent them from knowing that. 821 00:47:07,931 --> 00:47:11,031 This could be as extreme as, again, literal violence. 822 00:47:11,031 --> 00:47:11,371 You know, 823 00:47:12,771 --> 00:47:15,491 people in your country, if they sympathize... 824 00:47:15,491 --> 00:47:18,431 Like, if your country is in a war with another country, the people in your country who 825 00:47:18,451 --> 00:47:20,671 sympathize with the interests of the other country, you know, 826 00:47:21,371 --> 00:47:25,771 they are literally named as, you know, traitors. They're arrested, they're executed. 827 00:47:25,771 --> 00:47:29,171 Like, people can go that far just to prevent the truth coming out. 828 00:47:29,491 --> 00:47:32,431 The truth that, you know, the people you're murdering on the other side are kind of human 829 00:47:32,451 --> 00:47:32,751 too. 830 00:47:33,631 --> 00:47:34,071 And, 831 00:47:37,871 --> 00:47:40,991 yeah, I think conflicts tend to have that truth suppression effect. 832 00:47:41,011 --> 00:47:41,291 Like, 833 00:47:42,251 --> 00:47:45,731 not just for the people on the other side, but also backwards with people on your side. 834 00:47:46,331 --> 00:47:50,691 Uh, you end up defining very, like, you end up defining these well-defined in-groups and 835 00:47:50,711 --> 00:47:51,811 out-groups. Like, 836 00:47:54,311 --> 00:47:57,451 even before, you know, humans have this rational thinking, like 837 00:47:58,171 --> 00:48:02,131 even let's say, you know, monkeys have this concept of in-groups and out-groups where, 838 00:48:05,111 --> 00:48:10,031 again, fractions of the brain are devoted to the sole purpose of identifying, you know, 839 00:48:11,131 --> 00:48:14,371 are these people of my tribe, you know, are they on my side or are they secretly on the 840 00:48:14,411 --> 00:48:14,931 other side? 841 00:48:16,691 --> 00:48:17,251 And, 842 00:48:20,071 --> 00:48:23,311 yet when you start a conflict you end up defining an in-group and an out-group. 843 00:48:24,291 --> 00:48:24,631 Yeah. 844 00:48:28,671 --> 00:48:29,031 And 845 00:48:30,611 --> 00:48:34,031 yeah, once you have emotionally internalized, you know, these people are my side and 846 00:48:34,031 --> 00:48:38,871 these people are not my side, that again makes you worse at understanding the truth, the 847 00:48:38,911 --> 00:48:40,451 reality of what's actually going on. 848 00:48:41,851 --> 00:48:46,011 Uh, so I mean, if your country does something that they needn't have 849 00:48:46,071 --> 00:48:50,851 done...And that hurt a lot of people, you will choose to ignore 850 00:48:50,891 --> 00:48:52,371 that. If you know the other country 851 00:48:53,071 --> 00:48:55,411 did something nice, you will choose to ignore that. 852 00:48:55,512 --> 00:48:59,131 Because, you know, you are already emotionally primed to be like, "These are my side and 853 00:48:59,151 --> 00:49:00,071 that is the other side." 854 00:49:02,811 --> 00:49:06,212 So yeah, I think starting conflicts makes you worse at finding the truth. 855 00:49:06,212 --> 00:49:06,511 And 856 00:49:07,532 --> 00:49:12,052 I think the types of people who first realize that superintelligent AI is a big problem 857 00:49:12,071 --> 00:49:15,091 are also the types of people who just really care about the truth a lot. 858 00:49:15,311 --> 00:49:15,792 And 859 00:49:19,011 --> 00:49:21,051 yeah, I think it's really just that simple. 860 00:49:21,072 --> 00:49:21,271 Like 861 00:49:22,052 --> 00:49:26,091 the kinds of people who will first identify a weird problem like this are people who will 862 00:49:26,091 --> 00:49:27,072 spend their whole life 863 00:49:27,791 --> 00:49:30,052 in the pursuit of, you know, this type of knowledge. 864 00:49:31,131 --> 00:49:31,532 Uh, 865 00:49:32,291 --> 00:49:36,791 not the types of people who spend their entire life getting good at winning conflicts. 866 00:49:38,151 --> 00:49:38,732 So I think 867 00:49:40,431 --> 00:49:44,392 politicians spend many years of their life getting good at winning conflicts, and I think 868 00:49:44,392 --> 00:49:47,231 politicians would never identify a problem like this on their own. 869 00:49:47,231 --> 00:49:50,151 Like if somebody else goes and tells them, sure, that's a different thing, but 870 00:49:50,751 --> 00:49:54,791 a politician would never be the first person to identify that, you know, "Oh, climate 871 00:49:54,851 --> 00:49:58,951 change is real. Superintelligent AI is real. You know, bio weapons could kill us. 872 00:49:58,951 --> 00:50:03,191 You know, this is how a nuclear bomb works." I don't think a politician would go study 873 00:50:03,191 --> 00:50:04,391 the physics of a nuclear bomb, 874 00:50:05,311 --> 00:50:05,731 uh, 875 00:50:07,471 --> 00:50:11,211 because that's not what they've trained themselves to do over, you know, 10, 20 years of 876 00:50:11,231 --> 00:50:12,211 their life. And 877 00:50:14,071 --> 00:50:17,931 yeah, I think that is the fundamental reason why, you know, the people who first 878 00:50:17,951 --> 00:50:21,831 discovered the problem of superintelligent AI don't want to start a conflict around it. 879 00:50:24,451 --> 00:50:26,971 And I think that's a problem because, you know... 880 00:50:28,851 --> 00:50:30,771 Uh, and by the way, I'm not saying this is the only reason. 881 00:50:30,811 --> 00:50:33,991 Like they may give other reasons, some of those reasons might be real, some of the 882 00:50:34,011 --> 00:50:36,051 reasons might be rationalizations for, you know, 883 00:50:36,671 --> 00:50:39,571 internal stuff that ultimately derives from the thing I'm saying. 884 00:50:39,571 --> 00:50:42,991 It's just they are not a conflict-seeking type of person. 885 00:50:44,891 --> 00:50:45,471 Uh, 886 00:50:49,051 --> 00:50:52,811 because yeah, I mean, this desire to see conflicts goes very deep into, you know, how you 887 00:50:52,811 --> 00:50:56,831 define your in-groups and out-groups in the world, which goes like before kind of 888 00:50:56,831 --> 00:50:57,711 rational thinking. 889 00:50:59,211 --> 00:51:03,871 Like I- I'm guessing by the time someone's 12 years of age, you can already identify to 890 00:51:03,891 --> 00:51:08,591 some extent, is this the type of person who defines in-groups and out-groups well or 891 00:51:08,671 --> 00:51:09,131 not. 892 00:51:11,471 --> 00:51:11,771 Like, 893 00:51:12,411 --> 00:51:13,631 does this person... 894 00:51:14,471 --> 00:51:17,971 again, I kind of don't want to say. Does this person feel a lot of pride for their 895 00:51:18,071 --> 00:51:21,071 country, their religion, their family, et cetera? 896 00:51:21,611 --> 00:51:24,991 Or does this person empathize a lot with the people of the other country, the other 897 00:51:25,031 --> 00:51:28,291 religion, the other family, the people not in their family? You know... 898 00:51:30,391 --> 00:51:31,471 Yeah. Uh, 899 00:51:33,011 --> 00:51:36,411 like, yeah, I also don't think it's a coincidence that people who talk about 900 00:51:36,431 --> 00:51:40,711 superintelligent AI are, you know, disproportionately cosmopolitan, for example. 901 00:51:40,831 --> 00:51:41,031 And 902 00:51:42,231 --> 00:51:44,831 like, that's not a coincidence. But anyways, keeping all that aside. 903 00:51:46,431 --> 00:51:47,191 Uh, 904 00:51:49,451 --> 00:51:52,691 yes, anyways, for whatever reasons, these people don't want to start a conflict. 905 00:51:53,431 --> 00:51:57,311 I think a lot of other people who are watching this video are going to hear that and be 906 00:51:57,331 --> 00:52:00,671 like, "That's insane. Why would you not start a conflict over the extinction of the human 907 00:52:00,691 --> 00:52:01,151 race?" 908 00:52:03,091 --> 00:52:03,771 Uh... 909 00:52:07,691 --> 00:52:11,331 yeah, I'm also not sure which types of people are likely to watch my video. 910 00:52:11,531 --> 00:52:11,771 Like, 911 00:52:13,591 --> 00:52:16,611 like you by default tend to attract, you know, people similar to yourself. 912 00:52:16,611 --> 00:52:19,571 It's possible, you know, again, the people who watch this video are just people who think 913 00:52:19,631 --> 00:52:21,091 in ways similar to me. And 914 00:52:22,011 --> 00:52:25,431 yeah, that's just another kind of thing that happens. Yeah. 915 00:52:29,371 --> 00:52:29,671 So 916 00:52:31,131 --> 00:52:31,731 yeah, again, 917 00:52:33,331 --> 00:52:34,791 maybe I should go back to the 918 00:52:35,951 --> 00:52:39,451 reason why I started this video. So the reason I wanted to make this video is because I 919 00:52:39,451 --> 00:52:43,131 think superintelligent AI companies could make superintelligent AI in the next five 920 00:52:43,151 --> 00:52:47,271 years. I want to use some sort of force, some sort of collective action to, you know, 921 00:52:47,271 --> 00:52:51,671 shut down these companies. This could be, you know, passing laws, this could be, you 922 00:52:51,691 --> 00:52:51,891 know, 923 00:52:53,091 --> 00:52:56,851 large scale boycotts or protests that eventually turn into laws. 924 00:52:58,111 --> 00:53:00,651 This could be changes in government. 925 00:53:00,671 --> 00:53:03,791 This could be, you know, people toppling their government in favor of a new government 926 00:53:03,851 --> 00:53:05,771 that will then go and shut down the companies. 927 00:53:06,591 --> 00:53:10,471 This could be, you know, people literally storming into these companies' buildings and, 928 00:53:10,491 --> 00:53:12,491 you know, burning down these buildings. 929 00:53:12,571 --> 00:53:12,891 Again, 930 00:53:13,731 --> 00:53:16,311 I would prefer a... I would prefer, you know, 931 00:53:17,711 --> 00:53:21,791 ways of approaching this problem that are not straight up terrorism, like not straight 932 00:53:21,811 --> 00:53:23,211 up, let's go murder all these people. 933 00:53:23,311 --> 00:53:25,451 Like I would prefer approaches that 934 00:53:26,731 --> 00:53:28,231 are not terrorist in nature. 935 00:53:29,931 --> 00:53:33,391 Yeah, I think maybe I can talk about why do I prefer approaches that are not terrorism. 936 00:53:36,231 --> 00:53:40,111 Yeah, I think I have a general view, and this is especially true after the internet, is 937 00:53:40,131 --> 00:53:40,671 that, you know, 938 00:53:41,271 --> 00:53:44,911 if you're going to threaten to kill someone, you better have the force to back that 939 00:53:44,971 --> 00:53:45,731 threat up. 940 00:53:46,571 --> 00:53:47,031 Like 941 00:53:47,951 --> 00:53:51,591 if you bluff enough times, you're going to get found out because it's the internet age, 942 00:53:51,611 --> 00:53:53,111 you know, everything gets found out. 943 00:53:54,671 --> 00:53:57,911 And people are going to know you as a bluffer and not take you seriously. 944 00:53:59,931 --> 00:54:04,291 And yeah, if you only murder a few people, that doesn't actually prevent superintelligent 945 00:54:04,331 --> 00:54:05,471 AI from being built. 946 00:54:06,291 --> 00:54:06,831 Uh... 947 00:54:11,371 --> 00:54:14,611 and yet, institutions by design, you know, 948 00:54:15,251 --> 00:54:17,311 democracy by design, you know, 949 00:54:17,931 --> 00:54:21,791 capitalist companies by... sorry, I just mean companies. Yeah. 950 00:54:21,791 --> 00:54:26,231 Companies inside of a capitalist framework, at least in the US, uh, by 951 00:54:26,291 --> 00:54:26,851 design 952 00:54:27,571 --> 00:54:31,411 are made so that, you know, a bunch of terrorists can't just go and kill a few people 953 00:54:31,411 --> 00:54:33,711 there and the organization shuts down. Like that's not... 954 00:54:34,491 --> 00:54:37,451 these institutions are designed to be resistant to that. 955 00:54:37,451 --> 00:54:41,531 They're designed based on social contracts that outlast, you know, any specific leader 956 00:54:42,331 --> 00:54:43,791 or specific sets of people. 957 00:54:45,451 --> 00:54:48,431 So yeah, I mean, if you actually need to have force to 958 00:54:50,031 --> 00:54:54,815 shut down the entire company, you really do need a military.So like, 959 00:54:54,835 --> 00:54:58,975 yeah, I mean if there is a military coup in let's say the US military and then there are 960 00:54:58,975 --> 00:55:03,095 a section of the military goes and shuts down the companies, you know, that I kind of get 961 00:55:03,115 --> 00:55:06,515 because they actually have the force to go and shut down the entire company. 962 00:55:07,256 --> 00:55:10,875 I think random people watching my video and being like, "Oh, we'll go take our gun and 963 00:55:10,896 --> 00:55:14,335 shoot someone." And I think you don't have the force to actually get this done, therefore 964 00:55:14,355 --> 00:55:14,996 don't do it. 965 00:55:16,296 --> 00:55:20,756 And I think that's true for terrorists in general, no matter what activity you're trying 966 00:55:20,775 --> 00:55:22,576 to shut down. Like this is not just about AI. 967 00:55:22,636 --> 00:55:24,595 In general, we have designed the society 968 00:55:25,315 --> 00:55:28,416 on purpose where terrorism is not effective. 969 00:55:29,695 --> 00:55:30,016 Uh, 970 00:55:30,955 --> 00:55:33,295 if you go back maybe 200 years ago, 971 00:55:34,195 --> 00:55:38,155 you could probably get a lot more done by, let's say, assassinating a leader 972 00:55:38,915 --> 00:55:42,716 than you can get done today. If say today someone goes and assassinates a leader, you're 973 00:55:42,755 --> 00:55:46,335 going to achieve less of your political objectives. I think this is by design. 974 00:55:46,955 --> 00:55:51,496 We have by design, you know, created a world where terrorism does not work or at least 975 00:55:51,515 --> 00:55:52,455 it's not that effective. 976 00:55:54,495 --> 00:55:59,315 And yeah, I mean there are a lot of people who will see violence as bad and I kind of 977 00:55:59,335 --> 00:56:00,815 get that too. And 978 00:56:02,055 --> 00:56:06,755 yeah, I mean if the way to solve this problem is to persuade a large number of people 979 00:56:06,815 --> 00:56:08,635 that we have to shut down these companies and 980 00:56:09,415 --> 00:56:13,895 get their, you know, implicit consent, get them involved in the social contract that 981 00:56:13,915 --> 00:56:16,355 ultimately involves, you know, the military 982 00:56:17,275 --> 00:56:19,095 entering and shutting down these buildings. 983 00:56:19,335 --> 00:56:22,535 Like ultimately it is going to look quite lethal for us if, you know, military is 984 00:56:22,535 --> 00:56:24,995 breaking into these buildings or, you know, 985 00:56:25,855 --> 00:56:30,035 threatening to... yeah, threatening to imprison, kill, whatever the people who are 986 00:56:30,055 --> 00:56:32,375 running these companies. Ultimately it is going to come to that. 987 00:56:32,375 --> 00:56:32,535 But 988 00:56:33,975 --> 00:56:38,175 yeah, the way to do that is going to require, you know, persuading huge numbers of people 989 00:56:38,255 --> 00:56:42,635 that, you know, we want the law this way. We want them to treat up for this law. 990 00:56:42,835 --> 00:56:45,335 We want politicians to pass these laws and... 991 00:56:47,435 --> 00:56:52,415 Yeah, I would at least as of 2025, I think I would still prefer that approach of like 992 00:56:52,535 --> 00:56:54,055 mass action, collective action 993 00:56:55,275 --> 00:56:59,395 over, you know, terrorism. And therefore I'm not going to be supporting terrorism. 994 00:56:59,395 --> 00:57:02,295 If someone chooses to become a terrorist over this, uh, 995 00:57:03,175 --> 00:57:07,395 do not contact me. I do not want to get in trouble because of your actions. 996 00:57:07,395 --> 00:57:08,955 I have not supported terrorism. 997 00:57:11,715 --> 00:57:12,215 Uh, 998 00:57:13,235 --> 00:57:16,695 yeah, I think maybe that's a bit on why I do not support terrorism 999 00:57:17,395 --> 00:57:20,855 towards this problem even though I support a very hostile relationship- 1000 00:57:22,235 --> 00:57:25,855 support having a very hostile relationship with the AI companies because of this problem. 1001 00:57:27,275 --> 00:57:28,575 Uh, yeah, 1002 00:57:29,875 --> 00:57:32,015 again, now why am I making all this... 1003 00:57:33,055 --> 00:57:37,895 Yeah, I feel terribly lonely. I feel completely isolated from rest of society 1004 00:57:37,915 --> 00:57:40,475 and all the inane bullshit that 1005 00:57:41,635 --> 00:57:43,635 is part of, you know, modern society. 1006 00:57:44,755 --> 00:57:47,335 Like, you know, what restaurants do people eat in? I don't know. 1007 00:57:47,335 --> 00:57:51,195 What trips do people go on? I think that's what people in my... 1008 00:57:51,215 --> 00:57:53,735 people of my socioeconomic class talk about, you know. 1009 00:57:54,255 --> 00:57:58,195 Did you find dates on your fucking dating app? I mean, uh, it's... 1010 00:58:00,035 --> 00:58:02,415 Like there's a part of me that also gets this, but 1011 00:58:03,115 --> 00:58:07,735 yeah, it's just my brain just doesn't care. Like I'm just like, go away. Leave me alone. 1012 00:58:08,395 --> 00:58:11,895 I don't want to think about this. Like please leave me alone. 1013 00:58:11,915 --> 00:58:12,195 Like, 1014 00:58:13,915 --> 00:58:16,055 like my attention is a very scarce resource 1015 00:58:18,535 --> 00:58:21,695 and when I enter con-... Like yeah, this is... There's a thing about conversations. 1016 00:58:21,695 --> 00:58:23,435 Like conversations are this, you know, 1017 00:58:24,855 --> 00:58:25,615 implicit 1018 00:58:26,295 --> 00:58:29,675 contract that, you know, I will pay some of my attention to your thing and you'll pay 1019 00:58:29,675 --> 00:58:31,195 some of your attention to my thing. 1020 00:58:32,315 --> 00:58:36,875 And I'm increasingly not interested in entering these types of conversations because I 1021 00:58:36,955 --> 00:58:38,215 know the conversations will 1022 00:58:39,215 --> 00:58:42,455 involve some bullshit I just don't care about. And I'm like... 1023 00:58:43,115 --> 00:58:45,135 So I can do some of this. Like 1024 00:58:46,275 --> 00:58:50,995 I can spend some of my time care-... Like paying attention to things that 1025 00:58:51,455 --> 00:58:54,735 other people care about just because they care about them even if I don't care about 1026 00:58:54,755 --> 00:58:57,255 them. Like, you know, you care about this so maybe 1027 00:58:58,055 --> 00:59:02,015 to make you happy I'll spend some attention- some of my attention, my time, my energy on 1028 00:59:02,075 --> 00:59:06,575 your thing. I can do a little bit of this but I can't do this 24/7 and 1029 00:59:08,135 --> 00:59:10,155 living in modern society feels like 1030 00:59:11,695 --> 00:59:15,055 I'm being forced to do this 24/7 and that fucking hurts. 1031 00:59:15,075 --> 00:59:15,315 Like 1032 00:59:16,035 --> 00:59:17,955 it deeply, deeply hurts to be 1033 00:59:18,975 --> 00:59:19,755 trying to fit in 1034 00:59:20,495 --> 00:59:23,135 to a society that's just fucking stupid. 1035 00:59:23,295 --> 00:59:23,635 (laughs) 1036 00:59:24,955 --> 00:59:27,335 I don't know. I don't want to call the people around me stupid. 1037 00:59:27,335 --> 00:59:30,595 I think the problem is more complicated than that, but... 1038 00:59:36,815 --> 00:59:40,455 Yeah. Again, this attention is a scarce resource. 1039 00:59:40,475 --> 00:59:45,335 Please, please, please, my request to just anyone at any time is like 1040 00:59:45,375 --> 00:59:45,955 just, you know, 1041 00:59:47,075 --> 00:59:49,355 pay attention to something that actually matters. 1042 00:59:49,355 --> 00:59:52,475 That's something maybe you'll remember 10 years, 20 years from now. 1043 00:59:55,355 --> 00:59:59,315 Your attention also- what you pay attention to also affects what, you know, other people 1044 00:59:59,355 --> 01:00:02,355 pay attention to. There's also a collective thing going on here. 1045 01:00:05,135 --> 01:00:05,935 Yeah, man, I'm 1046 01:00:06,995 --> 01:00:09,695 done. I've had it up to here with 1047 01:00:10,555 --> 01:00:13,035 some of the bullshit conversations I need to deal with. 1048 01:00:13,095 --> 01:00:17,055 And again, I don't want to insult any of the people at the other side of these 1049 01:00:17,115 --> 01:00:18,435 conversations. Like, 1050 01:00:20,715 --> 01:00:25,195 I think it's just I'm venting out my frustration, but I don't want people to take this as 1051 01:00:25,235 --> 01:00:29,915 like, oh, somebody who enjoys tasty foods at restaurants is, you know, an idiot who pays 1052 01:00:29,915 --> 01:00:33,215 attention to the wrong things. Like that's not the conclusion I want you to take away 1053 01:00:33,215 --> 01:00:33,795 from this. 1054 01:00:37,355 --> 01:00:37,935 Uh, 1055 01:00:39,475 --> 01:00:40,655 man, am I frustrated. 1056 01:00:44,015 --> 01:00:46,275 Yeah, so anyways, what I think I really want 1057 01:00:47,195 --> 01:00:51,435 is just even a few people who could pay some more of their attention to this problem, the 1058 01:00:51,495 --> 01:00:53,375 problem that we might all fucking die 1059 01:00:54,435 --> 01:00:54,955 and- 1060 01:00:55,335 --> 01:00:56,055 (laughs) 1061 01:00:56,359 --> 01:01:00,999 If there are a few of you among- few of you out there, if you were already persuaded and 1062 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:01,999 you just want to 1063 01:01:02,599 --> 01:01:06,959 make yourself known to me, if you were persuaded by some of the things I have to say, you 1064 01:01:06,979 --> 01:01:11,759 know, please, please, please reach out. It would make a huge difference to my life. 1065 01:01:14,299 --> 01:01:17,139 Maybe I have something of value to offer you in return. 1066 01:01:17,799 --> 01:01:21,379 You can go look at my website and make some guesses on, you know, what can I offer you in 1067 01:01:21,379 --> 01:01:24,100 return. Can I offer you advice? Can I offer you emotional support? 1068 01:01:24,119 --> 01:01:25,200 Maybe my connections 1069 01:01:26,219 --> 01:01:27,280 are helpful. 1070 01:01:30,260 --> 01:01:33,379 I don't know, man. I'm just tired. It's... 1071 01:01:35,739 --> 01:01:39,919 Like, my plan until now was, you know, I know there are a few people in San Francisco who 1072 01:01:39,940 --> 01:01:42,419 care about these things, like deeply, deeply care about these things. 1073 01:01:42,419 --> 01:01:44,779 Like, this is one of the top one, two priorities of their life. 1074 01:01:45,519 --> 01:01:49,100 And I was like, "I will work hard for six months, one year, work on something impressive 1075 01:01:49,139 --> 01:01:51,760 so that, you know, somebody in San Francisco decides that 1076 01:01:52,539 --> 01:01:55,499 I am important enough to fund and they'll fund me and I'll get to go." 1077 01:01:57,319 --> 01:01:57,659 Yeah, but 1078 01:01:58,959 --> 01:02:03,579 even working for six months or a year on something in complete isolation is just hard. 1079 01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:03,859 And 1080 01:02:04,699 --> 01:02:06,619 this is kind of my appeal to you that 1081 01:02:09,619 --> 01:02:12,459 if you can fund me to just go, that would be awesome. 1082 01:02:13,019 --> 01:02:15,639 If you can come and meet me in India, that would also be awesome. 1083 01:02:15,659 --> 01:02:18,139 If you are in India and- like, just anywhere in India, like 1084 01:02:19,639 --> 01:02:22,199 I will take a train or a flight anywhere. 1085 01:02:22,939 --> 01:02:26,179 Actually not in India. If you're even in a neighboring country, like just... 1086 01:02:28,599 --> 01:02:31,699 Like if you tell me you're in Nepal or you tell me you're... 1087 01:02:33,779 --> 01:02:34,079 Yeah. 1088 01:02:34,999 --> 01:02:38,479 If someone, say from Nepal tells me, you know, that they care about super intelligent AI, 1089 01:02:38,479 --> 01:02:41,919 they want to meet me for a week, I'm actually might be okay just going to Nepal just to 1090 01:02:41,939 --> 01:02:42,439 meet you. 1091 01:02:45,059 --> 01:02:48,019 Why am I saying this? Yeah, my point is, 1092 01:02:50,059 --> 01:02:52,499 yeah, this is why I'm lonely. This is what I need. 1093 01:02:52,499 --> 01:02:57,319 I need a few people who also deeply care about this problem as the number one or number 1094 01:02:57,339 --> 01:02:58,759 two priority of their life. 1095 01:03:01,179 --> 01:03:01,459 Like, 1096 01:03:02,519 --> 01:03:05,859 I want to meet people who have that fire in their heart that, you know, this is the 1097 01:03:05,879 --> 01:03:07,919 problem that they will work on and... 1098 01:03:11,899 --> 01:03:13,979 Yeah, like it has to come from within you. 1099 01:03:13,979 --> 01:03:18,159 It can't come from, "Oh, Samuel is shouting at me to work on this problem, therefore I go 1100 01:03:18,199 --> 01:03:20,939 work on it." Like that's not how human beings work. It, uh... 1101 01:03:21,299 --> 01:03:24,319 There has to be a fire that burns within you for multiple years together. 1102 01:03:24,339 --> 01:03:27,239 You know, if that fire burns too bright, you'll kind of burn out. 1103 01:03:28,459 --> 01:03:32,739 If that fire burns not bright enough, you know, society will just extinguish it. 1104 01:03:36,439 --> 01:03:41,239 You know, fixing this problem is more important to me than whether I get 1105 01:03:41,239 --> 01:03:45,159 married, whether I have a family. You know, if I have to die alone in an unmarked grave 1106 01:03:45,179 --> 01:03:47,259 in order to fix this problem, I'll do it. 1107 01:03:50,519 --> 01:03:54,819 Like, my first loyalty is not to, you know, friends, family. 1108 01:03:54,819 --> 01:03:56,579 It's, you know, humanity and... 1109 01:03:58,239 --> 01:04:02,059 Yeah. Oh, right. That is maybe an interesting topic I can also talk about. 1110 01:04:03,199 --> 01:04:03,539 Like, 1111 01:04:04,359 --> 01:04:08,399 is your loyalty to your social circle? Is it to humanity? Is it to yourself? 1112 01:04:08,399 --> 01:04:10,299 Like, who are you loyal to first and foremost? 1113 01:04:10,299 --> 01:04:10,559 Like, 1114 01:04:11,199 --> 01:04:15,019 I am first and foremost loyal to my vision for humanity, which could differ for your 1115 01:04:15,019 --> 01:04:18,359 vision for humanity. I might want humanity to go in a certain way. 1116 01:04:18,359 --> 01:04:21,699 You might want humanity to go a different way. We can have a real conflict there. 1117 01:04:22,479 --> 01:04:24,999 But yeah, that is what I'm first and foremost loyal to. 1118 01:04:28,139 --> 01:04:28,699 And 1119 01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:34,339 I'm not s- yeah, I'm not saying you have to also be this hardcore as me. 1120 01:04:34,539 --> 01:04:35,799 Like, if you say, "Okay, 1121 01:04:37,239 --> 01:04:40,939 preventing the creation of super intelligent AI is your number two or maybe even number 1122 01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:42,619 three priority in life," then sh-... 1123 01:04:42,879 --> 01:04:47,139 Even that would make me feel a bit more lonely to know that you exist and to maybe spend 1124 01:04:47,159 --> 01:04:51,099 time with you, meet you. But if you're like, "Okay, this is my number eight priority in 1125 01:04:51,159 --> 01:04:55,059 life," then I'm like just, "Fuck you. Go away. Get out of my life." (laughs) You know? 1126 01:04:55,059 --> 01:04:56,379 I'm sorry to say, but... 1127 01:04:57,739 --> 01:04:57,899 (laughs) 1128 01:05:00,439 --> 01:05:04,219 Yeah, I think I'm being unnecessarily harsh in this video because I'm lonely. 1129 01:05:04,259 --> 01:05:04,459 Like, 1130 01:05:05,139 --> 01:05:07,459 I'm becoming more like the people I dislike. 1131 01:05:07,459 --> 01:05:11,559 So people I dislike are people who bring up their religion and their politics and their 1132 01:05:11,619 --> 01:05:14,259 ideology and shit into every single conversation. 1133 01:05:14,959 --> 01:05:16,859 And I dislike people who do that, but maybe 1134 01:05:17,619 --> 01:05:21,239 now I'm starting to have a little bit more empathy for why they do that or why some of 1135 01:05:21,239 --> 01:05:21,859 them do that. 1136 01:05:25,419 --> 01:05:29,819 Like, if I had at least a few people who cared about the same sorts of things I did, 1137 01:05:30,499 --> 01:05:35,059 then... And maybe we spent time every day, then I could also have controlled exposure to, 1138 01:05:35,059 --> 01:05:36,859 you know, the clown show that is modern society. 1139 01:05:36,859 --> 01:05:41,219 Like, I could also spend, you know, one day, like which I kind of already do, like one 1140 01:05:41,279 --> 01:05:42,239 day a week, you know, 1141 01:05:43,019 --> 01:05:43,539 one day 1142 01:05:44,239 --> 01:05:48,079 every two weeks with, you know, friends, strangers, new people, 1143 01:05:48,399 --> 01:05:49,239 acquaintances 1144 01:05:50,219 --> 01:05:54,299 who care about different things and, you know, I'll pay attention to their things and 1145 01:05:54,999 --> 01:05:58,819 look at the world through their worldview and make them feel better and help them out 1146 01:05:58,899 --> 01:06:00,619 through their own perspective of life. 1147 01:06:00,619 --> 01:06:00,879 Like, 1148 01:06:01,719 --> 01:06:03,299 I can do that once 1149 01:06:04,239 --> 01:06:08,299 I also have this need satisfied of, okay, there are some people who are with me and there 1150 01:06:08,299 --> 01:06:11,819 are also some people who are going their own separate ways and I can spend some time with 1151 01:06:11,839 --> 01:06:14,839 the people with me and also some time with the people going their own separate ways. 1152 01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:20,939 But it's just... I have just so completely lost the, you know, people who are with me, 1153 01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:22,539 that... 1154 01:06:24,459 --> 01:06:24,859 Yeah. 1155 01:06:25,679 --> 01:06:29,179 I am not able to, you know, offer what the other people need. 1156 01:06:29,179 --> 01:06:29,419 Like, 1157 01:06:30,359 --> 01:06:34,179 I am not able to wh- offer what I would ideally like to offer, you know, half of my 1158 01:06:34,199 --> 01:06:34,719 friends 1159 01:06:35,599 --> 01:06:39,959 because I feel so terribly lonely and isolated in my own lives. 1160 01:06:40,019 --> 01:06:44,239 And I feel this, you know, desperate need to insert, you know, AI safety into every 1161 01:06:44,239 --> 01:06:49,019 conversation, even conversations that have nothing to do with AI safety because I have 1162 01:06:49,039 --> 01:06:53,159 this unmet need of, you know, I am not heard, I am not understood, I am not accepted. 1163 01:06:54,039 --> 01:06:56,979 And I think most human beings fundamentally just want to be heard, understood and 1164 01:06:56,979 --> 01:06:58,019 accepted and 1165 01:06:58,679 --> 01:06:59,419 I'm not. 1166 01:07:02,539 --> 01:07:03,659 Yeah, that's why I want 1167 01:07:04,919 --> 01:07:08,919 few people who just care about this problem. I want to meet them somehow. 1168 01:07:09,059 --> 01:07:09,499 If they 1169 01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:12,719 live in another country, maybe if someone 1170 01:07:13,839 --> 01:07:15,379 cares enough about me, like... 1171 01:07:16,159 --> 01:07:18,759 (laughs) I kind of feel weird for saying this, but like... 1172 01:07:20,339 --> 01:07:24,019 Because I am fairly privileged, like I'm not poor by any means, but like, 1173 01:07:25,359 --> 01:07:28,759 you will be doing an altruistic favor to me if you get me into a city where people 1174 01:07:28,799 --> 01:07:30,639 actually care about this shit. Like, 1175 01:07:31,899 --> 01:07:35,499 I'm not even saying this from a like, "Oh, I will go and do great and big things." I 1176 01:07:35,519 --> 01:07:38,479 might do great and big things. Like, I might do that. I honestly want to do that. 1177 01:07:38,479 --> 01:07:38,699 But 1178 01:07:39,679 --> 01:07:43,999 at this point, even if you just care about me as a person, like you kind of might want to 1179 01:07:44,019 --> 01:07:48,619 do that. (laughs) And sure, okay, you might have other priorities. 1180 01:07:48,619 --> 01:07:53,079 Like why is fixing Samuel's pain and unhappiness your pro- like your number one priority? 1181 01:07:53,079 --> 01:07:56,919 It probably isn't, unless you're already friends with me, so I- I get that too. 1182 01:07:56,919 --> 01:07:58,859 That makes a lot of sense too. Yeah. 1183 01:08:00,779 --> 01:08:04,159 (people chattering) 1184 01:08:04,159 --> 01:08:07,039 Yeah, think this video's gone long enough and 1185 01:08:08,779 --> 01:08:10,099 yeah, I think I'm just going to end it. 1186 01:08:10,099 --> 01:08:11,859 I'm going to review it, see if there's 1187 01:08:12,879 --> 01:08:14,819 nothing I said that's too offensive. 1188 01:08:14,819 --> 01:08:17,819 I know I said some things that some people will see as a little bit offensive, but 1189 01:08:18,339 --> 01:08:19,979 there's nothing that's so offensive that 1190 01:08:20,599 --> 01:08:21,979 let's say I... 1191 01:08:22,619 --> 01:08:27,499 Yeah. I think I'm going to look at it once and then I'll probably just post it 1192 01:08:27,519 --> 01:08:28,779 and see how this goes.